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[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 91 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For a second I thought they were launching their federated lemmy/kbin instance. With different communities, like "support", "bugs", "news"...

Would have been freaking awesome and a great use case for Lemmy and federarion.

Good for them anyway.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

At the same time, it might not fit them. Lemmy is a link aggregator, which seems like extra functionality that they don't really need, not when existing forum software will do what they need, while also being more stable/mature.

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not good enough of an excuse, IMO. Link aggregation is essentially a normal post with just a link to somewhere else, which you can totally do in any forum... and it is no bloat at all.

I believe the reasoning was more like "we don't want to do any federation, because the barrier of having to create a new account will free us from trolls/bots/etc".

[–] heady@aggregation.cafe 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They made their announcement on their own site, they are the somewhere else, and the link has found it's way here so what's the problem?

We call websites like this one link aggregators but they are just platforms, it's the users who are the aggregators collecting the links that we are interested in. We don't need a system of top down promotion and don't need to have our platforms serve those who want to promote. Likewise projects like Jellyfin don't owe us a presence and this post itself proves they don't need one. The idea that everyone must maintain a brand identity and that our social media should be polluted with advertising is something that the fediverse has and I hope will continue to stand against.

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, dude, chill, 😅.

They just built a nice independent forum, but I would have liked to be able to participate in their forum with this account (federation) instead of having to create a new account.

That's it, this is not going to keep me awake at night, in fact, I am happy they are finding independence from Reddit. The world keeps turning, have a nice week!

[–] sillypuddy@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wonder if Lemmy could do single sign-on support like how you can log in some places with your Google or Facebook account.

[–] Dusty@lemmy.dustybeer.com 4 points 1 year ago

Add in the fact they'd end up having to defederate a lot of instances due to trolls and whatnot, and it's much better that they run it on their own site. It's much better from a moderation viewpoint for them. I know people will be all upset here, but it's honestly for the best.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AskHistorians, AkScience, AMA, AskReddit, Ask*, and the myriad of semi-official support subreddits for services, games, eyc. all would like to disagree that Reddit/Lemmy is a link aggregator exclusively.

[–] Hexorg@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The tree-like comment structure is just overall better for large-crowd engagement. Phpbb forum type is just going to get flooded with many posts and hard to follow when thousands answer

[–] techno156@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not sure that the Jellyfin community is that big or active enough that that will be much of an issue at all. Looking at their sub, the highest rated posts are under 1k, so number of people active on the sub is probably somewhere between 100k - 1M.

Your average post maybe has about 10 - 20 people interacting with it at most. Expecting thousands seems... optimistic, especially when the forum numbers puts them at under 300 people.

[–] Hedup@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope mods can restrict the types of content users can post in communities in fututure.

[–] QHC@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course they can, what else would moderators be doing? Not entirely sure how this is even a question...

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe they mean automated moderation tools that will just do that?

[–] Morphit@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

I think they mean turning off the ability to submit non-text posts entirely. It's much better that a user can't do something that isn't allowed than to have a bot fix up the situation after the fact.

[–] Bowen@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The return of phpbb, who had that on their 2023 bingo card?

[–] snarfvsmaximvs@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They evaluated it and decided against it in favor of MyBB.

[–] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm a little surprised they didn't pick Discourse.

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 1 year ago

Discourse is kinda garbage though. I think Flarum and NodeBB are better.

I used to be a developer on SMF, but these days I see the older forum systems like phpBB, SMF, etc. as "previous generation".