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Israel isnt retaliating to shit, they created this mess. the Palestinian militia groups locked in the open air prison of Gaza are the ones "retaliating".
You do know that 44% of the Gazan population is 14 or younger, right? Every shelling is killing kids, shutting off the electricity is killing kids. How many children do you have to shell in "self-defense"? Fuck off with that, Palestine is not doing "The exact same thing".
I recall a small little, tincy wincy attack from this terrorist group called "Hamas" that started this. Israel is no saint but Hamas, and Palestine supporting it, is 100% to blame for this. Sorry to remind you about that massacre.
This is a take that ignores a full 100 years of history - including the displacement of the entire Palestinian arab population. "Israel is no saint" - they are literally colonists engaging in a genocide of the Palestinians.
By that logic, do all countries have a century long statute of limitations to engage in vengeful warfare because of "past conflicts". Would you justify the massacre of white people because of slavery? Or would you allow native Americans to kill thousands because their ancestors were pushed away from their "land"? You do realize that every single country has fought for its territory - no flag is without sin.
I'm sorry your side isn't willing to budge on this issue but you can't engage in this discourse without a nuanced understanding of real history and honest critical thinking. You're letting others tell you what to feel and look stupid for it.
This is a false equivalency, Israel is actively engaging in settler-colonialism and genocide. These people who have been expelled from their home 76 years ago are actively suffering for it, it's a living memory. Are you comfortable letting "your side" use Hamas's attack on Israel as a justification to engage in ethnic cleansing ?
I would actually support giving land back to native Americans in the US/canada. If they started attacking white people to take land back, i wouldn't use that as an excuse to decimate their population. It's possible to have a nuanced understanding of a situation, and still not side with genocide.
And it's possible to recognize and be critical of that, while also being critical of an ethnostate that is actively engaging in the decimation of the Palestinians that used to live there.
Seriously? It sounds like you're projecting an idea of "my side" onto me. Im sorry you aren't able to engage in nuanced discourse without projecting and attacking my intelligence.
When you say "actively engaging in genocide", are you referring to the recent attacks this month or in the past? Palestine has not made it secret that they want to wipe Israelis from the face of this earth. I genuinely don't understand your point here.
At least you're consistently dumb. I just wish that blissful dumbness would bleed over into defending Israel from time to time.
Again, Palestine wants to wipe Israel off the face of this earth. Why is it okay for Palestine to do it and not Israel? I find it fascinating that you give so much leeway to one country, but not another even though you're using the same parameters to judge one and justify the other.
I don't think you're just stupid. I think you're an actual horrible person to dismiss an entire country and its people because somebody told you one side is good and one side is bad.
Geez, can you have a conversation without engaging in ad-hominem attacks? You've really thrown civilty out the window here.
Of course Palestine wants to wipe out Israel, they fucked the Palestinians 10 times sideways and displaced the whole population. But does anyone seriously think Palestine is capable of wiping out israel? I dont think either is OK, but how much suffering can you lay on a whole population before retaliation is justified? Why shouldn't the Palestinians hate Israel when it's creation led to all of them losing their homes?
Damn, fuck off asshole. You have no idea how much leeway I've given Israel until now. I've defended Israel, and I just can't anymore. Israel created a mess, and their only solution is to annihilate the people they displaced?
I started looking into the history of the situation and my opinion changed. I'm not dismissing the Israeli people, but I'm not going to support their retalliation either. I'm a horrible person for that? Wouldn't that make you a horrible person for supporting Israel's genocide of Palestinians? Nobody "told me what to think" you smug prick, can you stop projecting for one conversation?