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[–] steventhedev@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I was not expecting the drama around it. Is the issue truly a different orthography or is more like a different font/ligature issue?

EDIT: forgot the article I found on it: https://restofworld.org/2021/tulu-unicode-script/

[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The KTSA under Pavanaja was trying to reform the language and modify it - it was a destructive reformation, where the language now borrows some feature from the Kannada and Malayalam script, and some of the characteristics were newly made and never seen before in the original script, whereas the other camp under Murthy was trying to preserve the original, archaic script. At last, both the groups have come to an agreement this year stating that they will allow the reformed script, as it is already ready and easier to grasp, and will be called the invented Tulu lipi. The ancient lipi will be called the Tulu-Tigalari lipi, and since there's still some unconfirmed research work on a few characters, all they have to do now is focus on those characters and they can share the rest of them with the invented lipi.

[–] v_krishna@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Very interesting article and background. My father's side of the family is all from Mysuru but also long roots in Udupi and Manipal. I'll ask if anybody are Tulu speakers, I don't think so as I've never heard of it.

[–] fred@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So not all the characters are even known yet?

[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

They are known, but there are multiple different forms. Some of the forms may have never been seen, and some of them cannot be expressed in the Unicode, as it was made with Latin letters in mind.

So when you're trying to digitize abiguda, you have to be careful about ligatures, because real world may have multiple different forms in different context, and you can get to choose only one. But when we are talking about archiving, it has to be perfectly copy-pasted the way it was in the palm inscription.