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[–] Guydht@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If that were their goal 2 million would've been obliterated already. Stop assuming they're racist and think what they can do from their perspective. They have over 200 kidnapped, mostly civilians, and they're dealing with a group which proved physically that their only goal is killing civilians for terror.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop assuming they’re racist and think what they can do from their perspective.

Bro they're literally committing warcrimes according to the UN. Examples include:

Bombing refugee trucks fleeing North Gaza.

Giving orders to evacuate to certain locations and then bombing them.

Using white phosphorus.

They have over 200 kidnapped, mostly civilians,

Well in that case don't bomb them because they're also dying in these attacks.

[–] Guydht@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Using white phosphorus? No legit source confirmed that. That's some nice propaganda by Hamas who have been proven to lie constantly.

Idk about the 2 other claims, but it's easy to believe them. I'd like to think they had a good reason bombing so called "safe spaces" but the truth is that there couldn't be a safe place in Gaza right now. Not when Hamas is legit everywhere.

And about the kidnapped, do you really think they can just march into the tunnels and just grab them and say bye? Dead soldiers can't save anyone. They'd rather kill some and actually rescue some, than keeping them alive while getting hundreds if not thousands of soldiers running to their deaths in trapped underground tunnels. Doing a ground invasion without bombing the area first is just suicide.

Seriously, what the hell do you expect Israel to do in that situation. Think for just a second from their perspective and you'll realize what they're doing is necessary.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Using white phosphorus? No legit source confirmed that.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/12/israel-white-phosphorus-used-gaza-lebanon

There you go.

Idk about the 2 other claims, but it’s easy to believe them. I’d like to think they had a good reason bombing so called “safe spaces” but the truth is that there couldn’t be a safe place in Gaza right now. Not when Hamas is legit everywhere.

And that justifies bombing trucks full of refugees?

Doing a ground invasion without bombing the area first is just suicide.

Nobody said do a ground invasion in the first place. Negotiations are obviously the way to go here.

[–] Guydht@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That article literally starts with "Beirut, oc.12". Saying lebanon are a good source of facts is delusional.

And that justifies bombing trucks full of refugees?

Again, source? And not an obviously biased one. Either way though, I can see that happening as a part of a war. Hamas are literally hiding between innocent women and babies, and that means those women and babies are killed. Does Israel have a hand in those deaths? Yes. Is Hamas responsible for those people? 200% yes and much more than Israel. Hamas started this attack very well prepared militarily, and with zero civilian infrastructure preparations. Not only did they not think of "what'll become of our civilians" they actively hold them from running to the south (which is still less bombed than the north). Blaming Israel and protesting against Israel is just ignoring the other side being completely wrong

Oh ok so 1400 dead and 200 kidnapped and they're supposed to just tap Hamas on the wrist and call it a day?

Israel's response is deadly, and 100% known since day 1 by anyone who is even a bit knowledgeable on the conflict. And that includes Hamas, which just disregard their citizens as colletaral damage in the pursuit of their lunatic jihad mindset.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

So since you're obviously not discussing this in good faith I'll go do something else. But, just in case, here's your source.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67114281

https://metro.co.uk/2023/10/14/over-70-killed-after-israeli-strikes-hit-civilians-fleeing-gaza-19662650/

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

That article literally starts with “Beirut, oc.12”. Saying lebanon are a good source of facts is delusional.

Bruh it's Human Rights Watch saying that. Lebanon isn't claiming anything.

I won't engage with this further; you're not discussing this in good faith.