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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

If they would recognize Israel as a country, the conflict will likely turn its tide.

I'm not sure how that would happen. There have been two ceasefires with Hamas that fell apart because Israel didn't lift the blockade as promised, even as Hamas followed it for months on end.

We already know Netenyahu's position on Palestine; he's not exactly trying to hide it, and the West Bank is currently being colonized (up to and including pogroms) by Israel so it's not like peace is working either.

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Are you old enough to remember the Olso accords and the peace process? Pals have been offered states numerous times, they don't want it , they want to fight, every resource they use for terror. Israel is just supposed to make concessions until the pals come around to peace ? They will not.

You don't understand the mindset, if you lived in any Muslim country particularly in the Midwest you would find things very difficult, particularly if you are a women, or gay, or a non Muslim. They will kill a woman who doesn't wear her scarf, forget about talking to men... these people are fascist in a way that you do not understand

[–] kick_out_the_jams@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You just don't put out statements calling their country illegitimate - it's not rocket science.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And while we're on the subject of rocket science, stop fucking launching rockets at Israeli civilians

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

No one is defending Hamas shooting rockets at Israel, who has an Iron Dome to protect them anyway.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The PLO recognized Israel. What was the result?

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because by then all the ball will be on Netanyahu's court. When Hamas announce their new charter, US made it clear that if it doesn't include recognizing Israel as a country then they will not have a dialog. Of course, at that time there's Trump so it won't work regardless, and now it's too late.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Because by then all the ball will be on Netanyahu’s court.

It's been for a long time now. Netenyahu and his ilk have made it very clear they don't want a Palestinian state. Like they're turning it into an election platform. The PLO recognized Israel in preparation for the Oslo Accords, and what happened? What's the state of the PNA now?