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[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Stop putting words into my mouth.

First of all, make me.

Second of all, I only put the words there that you were too disingenuous to utter yourself because you would rather use fallacious arguments than to own your position outright.

argue against the ones I'm actually saying you stupid shit.

I did that too, but you didn't want to engage with that. I think that says a lot about the quality (or lack there of) in your arguments.

Do you think shooting up a public place is the action of a rational, sane individual?

No.

Do you think that maybe, just maybe, this country's healthcare system, especially it's mental healthcare, could maybe use some improvement?

Yes.

Do you think that the rights of innocent, sane individuals should be violated just because someone else unrelated to them committed a crime?

This is a bad argument. I never said "ban guns" because I know that is never going to happen in this country. However, I am also aware there are other ways to combat the problem like mandatory registration, increasing the age to buy firearms, better red flag laws, and many other enforcement options.

I'm sorry you don't like the truth, but the truth is that our existing regulations would work just fine if we actually had a functioning healthcare system that could, I dunno, maybe help these people before they go off the deep end. Crazy, I know.

Two things can need improvement at the same time. We can have better gun laws, and better healthcare. They are not mutually exclusive. Only knuckle-dragging half-wits think these problems aren't interrelated, and therefore a multi-pronged approach to solving them would obviously be necessary.

Then again, maybe you'd prefer another Oklahoma City instead.

More fallacious argumentation from you. What a surprise. This doesn't even justify engaging with.

[–] Ikenshini@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

These are really great ideas. If only we had manditory registration, a high age restriction for guns (why not 35? That's the same age you have to be president right?), and really strong red flag laws (seems like we need to take the guns from people in the military, they don't seem to be fit to have guns), there's a chance this shooting wouldn't have happened.

[–] archonet@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

Ah, so now you claim to read minds. Ok. Not reading the rest of this drivel, it's clear you're not really up to this. Better luck next time, champ!