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Israel is using terrorist means. This time we are the terrorists
Palestinians are just civilians, they aren't armed, they are not an army, they are just citizens getting murdered by a terrorist state that has been invading them from more than 70 years. HAMAS was voted by Palestine citizens, and it's the only defense they have. The attack that HAMAS did was mainly because Israel was already invading and killing a ratio or 200/400 citizens each year, while stealing their farms, and land, that's why HAMAS attacked the territory that in the past was just Palestine.
I said "HAMAS has the right to self-defense" as everyone is just saying "Israel has the right to self-defense" which is super unfair as Israel is the one invading and attacking from years passively and injuring Palestinians.
Again, Palestinians are mostly citizens, they aren't armed to be able to defend themselves, they almost can't have a voice.
You say "terrorist" too easily.
https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=l8qay1Al7Dc
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apartheid-against-palestinians-a-cruel-system-of-domination-and-a-crime-against-humanity/
From Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas):
As far as I know, Israel didn't wanted peace.
Sorry, I thought you were talking about Hamas. Can you paste some source, so I can read what do you refer?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_peace_process
From your reference:
That's why Israel will never make peace.
So they never wanted to give back the Palestine territory.
that is the most laughably ignorant statement I've seen all day
certainly not Hamas 😂
The Arab states. And said Arab states and Palestine have continually attacked Israel since. Hamas is the latest in a long line of Arab aggressors, and have been firing rockets at Israel for decades.
Ignoring the decades of Arab aggression as a direct cause of the current conflict is idiotic at best.
Portraying the Arabs as aggressors in the genocidal colonial project undertaken in occupied Palestine during the last 8 decades is racist and dishonest at best
That's not true. Please don't lie in plain view here. You're insulting the intelligence of everyone.
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1716541569141026910
Let's remember how Nelson Mandela was on a terrorism watch list.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2013/12/07/why-nelson-mandela-was-on-a-terrorism-watch-list-in-2008/
https://time.com/5338569/nelson-mandela-terror-list/
The first bomb attack in Palestine, the first time the word "terrorist" appeared on the news, was by Zionist a "Jewish right-wing underground movement" organization reference https://www.britannica.com/topic/Irgun-Zvai-Leumi:
https://www.jordantimes.com/opinion/lina-gress/1946-explosion-king-david-hotel-jerusalem-personal-story
Why saying "By a jew organization" is being racist? English isn't my first language, so I probably didn't write it properly.
EDIT: Didn't want to offend anyone, sorry for that. Also, Nelson Mandela fought against racism, didn't he? I don't know why I still talk with you.
Calling it Zionist would be the correct take. There are a lot of anti Zionist Jewish people and just regular folks who have nothing to do with Israel.
Okay, I just took the reference from https://www.britannica.com/topic/Irgun-Zvai-Leumi which says it's "Jewish right-wing underground movement". Thanks.
You probably want to say Israeli or zionist not Jewish. There are a large minority of Jewish folks who want Israel to stop existing or at least stop existing as an apartheid state
I just wanted to point this. As they seem to call terrorist only because of some misinformation on news, Israel and Hamas are both bad but Israel people aren't terrified like Palestine is with the attacks of the other side.
I’m not racist, being racist is pretty stupid at my point of view. Thanks to clarify.
No personal attacks please.
Good luck destroying terrorist apologists from your basement.
Well, for me, you are the terrorist apologist. Calling Israel to kill all the citizens in Gaza... they did nothing.
Any person from Israel from age 16 up to 70 are forced to be listed on the army as reservist, Israel citizens are part of their army (as reservists) while Palestine citizens aren't, at least not those 2000 children. Hamas was voted by Palestine in 2006, so yeah. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/10/israel-military-draft-reservists/
Don't be such a cry baby
No, no, the babies aren't crying. They're already dead.
Oh no everyone who disagrees is a crybaby.
By crybaby