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Gradience, Flatseal, Loupe Image Viewer, and Resources running on Ubuntu 16.04

Firefox 118.0.2 running on Ubuntu 16.04

Door Knocker, Collision, and Cartridges running on Ubuntu 16.04

ASHPD Demo running on Ubuntu 16.04, showing a notification through XDG portals

According to Door Knocker, almost half of the portals are unavailable on Ubuntu 16.04, compared to only one unavailable on Fedora 39 with GNOME, which means Flatpaks running here may have more limited capabilities than usual.

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[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] nicman24@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

you are still running 7 year old code with no security updates

[–] syaochan@mastodon.online 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@nicman24 Ubuntu 16.04 ESM will have security updates till 2026

[–] nicman24@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

oh nvm i read something in the title wrong. also dont count on fast fixes for the kernel they have repeately lagged or even never arrived in older lts

[–] sebsch@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not the universe. Ubuntu is one of the most unpatched systems out there.

[–] IverCoder@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a completely patched Ubuntu 16.04 through the Extended Security Maintenance program.

I would have tried this on Ubuntu 14.04 (supported until 2024) but Flatpak never supported 14.04 in the first place.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are talking about the code sitting inside the flatpak I think. If a developer fails to continue updating the system libraries a flatpak contains, you retain old vulnerabilities you could have otherwise fixed with a sudo apt update && apt upgrade or a sudo pacman -Syu

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The runtimes are well maintained and it shows warnings on no longer maintained versions. It’s less of a problem in practice.

[–] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Flatpak has relatively weak sandboxing, takes up a lot more storage because sometimes dependencies get bundled a few dozen times, and most distressingly depends on the application developer to be available to do things like address supply chain attacks.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think you understand flatpaks. Flatpaks have dependencies such as the gnome or KDE frameworks. Those frameworks are only installed once so I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that they are installed multiple times.

Also flatpaks usually come from flathub.org which is unlikely to be compromised. It not impossible but they seem to be pretty good about properly labeling apps.

[–] halva@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

relatively weak sandboxing

because xorg exists, not because flatpak can't do sandboxing well

dependencies get bundled a few times

only if there's a need to do so. identical runtimes are shared

depends on the application developer to be available to do things like supply chain attacks

yeah as if a rogue package maintainer can't do the same