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[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Are you saying that the only possible actions are to allow trolls or defederate? It seems to me that there are also other, better solutions. If their decision was flawed, we should be able to criticize it.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Lemmy seems to be fairly basic and limited currently when it comes to moderation, especially across instances.

[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I haven't seen them asking the community to make better tools (I could have helped) or with moderation.

[–] eta_aquarid@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they're literally doing that right now

are they supposed to just sit and let trolls keep coming in while they do it????

[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm saying they could have asked for help and let us solve the issue together instead of cutting their users off from the outside world. No other instance had to defederate.

[–] HowdWeGetHereAnyways@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That argument is circular nonsense.

They couldn't have realized the full scope of the lack of mod tools until someone made it a problem.

So your argument seems to be based on Beehaw being at fault for not being able to see the future?

The fact that other instances aren't moderated to the same standard means that Beehaw is at fault?

Is it really so hard to get more moderators and ask for help with developing the tools?

The fact that other instances aren’t moderated to the same standard means that Beehaw is at fault?

Are you saying all instances should be so obsessed with protecting users from possible harassment as to cut off their communication with the outside world without even asking them first?

It doesn't matter now though. The damage they did matters less and less each day as other instances are getting more and more users. But even if they federate again, we should probably never post on their communities in case they do this again in the future.

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