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[–] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If materialistic conditions aren’t favourable, I’d imagine so. The left is much more materialistic than the right, which is more idealistic.

[–] lemat_87@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right more idealistic? This is, apart of generalization fallacy, simply not true. Most of right wingers (I now many, sadly) are consumptioninst fucks (calling them pigs would be an insult to these intelligent and lovely pink animals). Ideas of Marx, Engels, Lenin and Mao revolutionised the world! What ideas are behind conservatives, except keeping the status quo and exploit everything you can for selfish whims?

[–] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The ideas of Marx et Al are based on material conditions, hence materialistic. It means that your ideologies are based on material conditions, or based on what reality is. Hence, scientific socialism.

Idealistic is the opposite, meaning that your ideologies are based on ideas; you think that things are this way because they should be this way. Which doesn’t really make sense.

[–] lemat_87@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

OK, I got a wrong sense. I agree now.

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not exactly, many left libs are anti natalist because they have Malthusian ideology. My take is that leftists being usually poorer can’t afford to have as many kids as the wealthy people who think god wants them to never stop birthing.

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I mean the type of people who will protest for BLM and stuff but don’t have a materialist analysis. These are the people typically considered to be the “kid lacking left.”