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[โ€“] DessertStorms@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Your entire reply can be summed up on one word - entitlement.
And entitlement is born of privilege, not mental illness.

Everyone in society could do with fucking therapy, and there are millions of people who I would give it to before I gave it to Truss (who aren't getting it, and often need it in the first place, precisely because of people like her and their actions), because they are in actual need rather than just being overly entitled and fucking up with the immense power they've been given as a toy.

She (or anyone like her) isn't some innocent little lamb simply being led astray, you don't become a conservative MP without being fully aware that you're only fighting for some people in society, even if you don't like admitting it, and all you are doing is providing her with excuses when there are none.

[โ€“] frog@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I think you're wrong on that. While I don't agree with the politics of conservatives, and I don't share their views, I've met enough of them to know they genuinely think they're helping everyone. Their version of "helping" is just summarised as "everyone should stand on their own two feet and being independent is better for them than relying on others". It's short-sighted, ignorant, and fails to account for all the circumstances of different people's lives. Typically they have some level of privilege, whether that's being born into wealth or power, or just being exceptional enough that they could overcome disadvantages that others couldn't. Doesn't make them evil. Just ignorant.

I live by "judge the action, not the person". Liz Truss is exceptionally foolish, not evil. And I actually think it's not helpful to demonise all conservatives as evil and only out for themselves. Plenty of them are ignorant, misinformed, and paternalistic (in the sense that they think they know what's best for people, regardless of what those people say for themselves). Plenty of them are incompetent. But there's a tendency in some circles to ascribe malice to what can very easily be explained by stupidity.

Also: the people who have enormous amounts of power in their hands are exactly the people that need therapy the most, because they need to be thinking straight and making rational decisions. Nobody should be allowed to be an MP without having extensive therapy first.