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[–] peter@feddit.uk 133 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The metaverse died because it didn't mean anything, there was no clear thing you could point to and say "this is the metaverse". It was a collection of buzzwords designed to sell a dream to investors and nothing more.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 50 points 1 year ago (5 children)

As a developer who loves to tinker with web stuff, I feel most of the tech scene and Silicon Valley are full of people who went into development just for the money. I almost see it every day.

[–] erwan@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, it wasn't always the case. I was in the Silicon Valley in the 2000's and it was full of techies who really believed in the open web, and even Google was a proponent of open standards.

A few years later it seems like the tech matured enough that being technically savvy was no longer necessary to be a successful founder. Slowly it stopped being about technical innovations and became about raising money, product marketing, A/B testing, etc.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

Selling dreams to VCs has long been the game, but VCs started getting dumber and greedier as all the low hanging opportunities were used up. So tech startups had to make sillier and sillier claims and business plans to keep raking in VC dough.

Subscriptions have been big VC keywords for the last 7-8 years, as data harvesting started to be monopolized by a few big owners. Ads are trying to make a comeback as subscription fatigue sets in, which is why blockers are being targeted lately.

I’m not looking forward to the next method of extracting wealth from the masses in trade for VC investment. Probably another form of slavery or subjugation they haven’t found a way to hide yet.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is the cycle of co-option that takes place with any career that becomes profitable.

A lot of people don't realize that computers and programming in general were seen as "women's work" or "nerd shit" until especially the dotcom boom, and career women and nerds (of all genders) were displaced in favor of MBA-bros who the VCs and CEOs didn't disdain (not by being forced out, but by not being given the jobs and funding; the "paper ceiling" is often used for this).

Machine learning and crypto were also relegated to being "nerd shit" in their nascent years, and now look who populates those particular spaces: non-technical MBA-bros and snake oil salesmen trying to cash in on the hype (and building on the uncompensated work of others... in machine learning's case, quite literally so).

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

I feel the same way. They’re in it to become a unicorn and get a big exit. They don’t care about making good software, just profitable software. The vibe in Silicon Valley stopped being hackers and became bankers.

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago

Silicon Valley has become a vehicle to secure VC funding. They've forgotten that is just step 2.

[–] Redscare867@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn’t go into tech for the money, but after several years of grinding I’m definitely at the point where I’m only still in it for the money. I don’t even want to think about computers outside of work anymore.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Sounds like you are just not in the role or company that appreciates you. I've had a similar experience at the beginning, but I kept looking until I found a company that did, so I hope one day you do as well.

[–] SkepticElliptic@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago

"Metaverse" was the idea that you would use only Meta services instead of the wider Internet. Much like AOL and Yahoo tried back in the 90s and 00s.

[–] Thrashy@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not strictly true that it didn't mean anything, but I would say that it consisted of a couple weakly-defined and often mutually incompatible visions is what could be.

Meta thought they could sell people on the idea of spending hundreds of dollars on specialized hardware to allow them to do real life things, but in a shitty Miiverse alternate reality where every activity was monetized to help Zuck buy the rest of the Hawaiian archipelago for himself.

Cryptobros thought the Metaverse was going to be a decentralized hyper-capitalist utopia where they could live their best lives driving digital Lambos and banging their harem of fawning VR catgirl hotties after they all made their billions selling links to JPEGs of cartoon monkeys to each other.

Everybody else conflated the decentralized part of the cryptobros' vision with the microtransactionalized walled garden of Meta's implementation, and then either saw dollar signs and scrambled to get a grift going, or ran off to write think pieces about a wholly-imaginary utopia or dystopia they saw arising from that unholy amalgamation.

In reality, Meta couldn't offer a compelling alternative to real life, and the cryptobros didn't have the funds or talent to actually make their Snow Crash fever dream a reality, so for now the VR future remains firmly the domain of VRChat enthusiasts, hardcore flight simmers, and niche technical applications.

[–] drlecompte@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Sums it up nicely 👍

[–] whodatdair@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Monorail Monorail Monorail 👋👋

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I call the dumb one Zucky

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

This was the best illustration of that. Years and years of effort for some cash-grab that never happened.