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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 226 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The meek "please call me" was after the manager found out from upper management that they were far more replaceable then Caleb was.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 140 points 1 year ago

Exactly. If Caleb had it in writing that he was going to be paid regardless then the dude had some serious leverage.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 86 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Nah, "call me" always means "let's make this a real-time social hierarchy game, because I'm good at exploiting verbal cues and expectations to shove people toward my desired goal."

[–] Nythos@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And also a way to move something to where there’s no proof of what was said.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

The #1 reason in my experience. The only bosses who have ever said this to me are ones who were manipulative creeps where i made sure to keep a record (outside the company tools) of everything they ever said. It was never said to me like this, it was just standard operating procedure for that type.

[–] tjhart85@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's also the "oh shit, I'll get this fixed, but nothing I say can be in writing or I'm definitely getting fired" possibility.

Nah boss, I just apologized for my misunderstanding, I have no idea why $Insubordinate_Contractor is saying that I said he'd better come in or I'm going to blacklist him in the entire industry and ensure he never works again ... I mean, why would I say that?! I don't have that kind of power!

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup those of us who are not good at bad faith conversations need to get good at recognizing when one is about to happen and insist on written.

"We need to take this conversation offline" is a near-universal precursor to ethical dispensation.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you want an example, every online "debate" is a bad faith convo.

[–] 11181514@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh so you're calling me a liar??!

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

You sound defensive!

[–] 11181514@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

No, "call me" means "I'm going to say some things to you I don't want to put in writing that could be used against me later."

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Or it's the manager seething with rage, wanting to vent that rage, but not being able to do it adequately via text message.