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Something I've always wondered is what kind of women were in the lives of incel men when they were young. Did they have a bad relationship with their mother? Did they lack sisters or other female family members? Or is their family situation irrelevant? Maybe some particular situation in their early years caused them to develop a complex around women?

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[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There’s no real blanket statement for this. It will always be anecdotal evidence.

My anecdotal evidence is that incels I’ve met tend to be men who were always turned away by women for being weird in one way or another. This can be never bathing, weird anime obsessions, never holding a job because they perceive themselves as above it, etc. And because of this constant spurring of them and depression or anxiety they start to blame whatever they can. They see being in a relationship with a women as what would make them happy, but women don’t want them. So it must be the women’s fault. From there they just go further and further down the rabbit hole.

All anecdotal by the way and in no way is this a blanket every incel statement.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also: There are people who still believe women to be property. I have family like this, who are sex offenders, that still justify their actions to this day.

Pretty much boils down to women having too much autonomy, at least to my sex offender family members.

I’m sure you can guess what side of the political isle they were raised on. lmao

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's stuff like this that makes me think all girls should be pulled aside at an early age and taught no holds barred knife fighting and then given a very sharp knife to carry visibly at all times.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hahahaha I don’t know about that, as much as I DO agree with it.

That same family I mentioned in my last comment are the same ones who say shit like, “I WISH someone would break into my house so I can SHOOT AND KILL THEM”

I can see a world where women fight back, men kill them in “self-defense” and that is upheld by the misogynistic legal system, and the rapist murderers go free.

But again, I do agree with your sentiment.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Besides, we all know the answer is to take all the rapists and all the murderers and put them all together on an island and all the murderers can be raped, and all the rapists can be murdered, until you only have either two rapists or you’re down to one raped murderer, but who cares about him?

(Arrested Development for any that don't know)

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

That's how you create a super murderapist

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, we do have to much Judge Dredd syndrome, that's for sure.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop spreading bizarre, dangerous ideas like this. Weapons should be carried concealed whenever possible.

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well, obviously they will have a second, shaper knife concealed as well.

[–] someacnt@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't it mostly the appearance?

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It can be, but I’ve met some decent looking guys who were incels. I think most I’ve seen tend to initially put off women because before full blown incel they already have a warped perception of women. Some I’ve seen are also just downright narcissistic. It can be a lot of different things.

[–] someacnt@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I see, I thought appearance is the biggest factor. Maybe it's just local thing around me.

[–] Elivey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... Did you just ignore their entire paragraph where they included reasons these guys have been rejected?

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

They can be fugly on top of that