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[–] erranto@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So was the blockade. and they did nothing about it . bunch of spineless hypocrites

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago
[–] 1chemistdown@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. What is the EU going to do without the US’s approval? UN is out due to permanent security member’s veto power. Going against the USA means loss of a lot of things. Some of them crucial. They literally cannot do a single thing without losing a major thing that directly impacts their citizens.
[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not everything is about the US, you know, EU-internal politics regarding Israel are quite complicated.

I don't think we managed to officially ban products out of settlements yet but I don't see them anywhere for the simple reason that they have to be labelled as settlement products, not "Made in Israel". Israel threw a pretty fit over that, usually EU action (besides stern letters) takes the form of annoying the Israeli right by helping Palestinians.

Going against the USA means loss of a lot of things.

...none of which the EU can't replace. We've been in plenty a trade war, you're welcome to look up how those ended.

[–] Ashsherman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems to my like most Europe does not like Israel but they'd rather the jews there than back in Europe.

Just a guess, i cou I d be off by a mile..

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

We'd rather they'd understand rapprochement even half as well as we do.

[–] 1chemistdown@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not everything is about trade wars. All it takes is for the US to say they will not follow NATO security agreements and follow through with that, and if you think that is not possible you haven’t paid attention to the shit show over here. It’s a serious problem and we are not fixing the holes that appeared in recent years.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

The EU doesn't need the US to defend itself -- who's going to invade? Russia? With what army?

Power projection is another thing but we don't really want to do that anyways. And the French would rejoice they'd finally get their EU army project really going.