this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2023
263 points (98.9% liked)

Star Trek Social Club

10676 readers
232 users here now

r/startrek: The Next Generation

Star Trek news and discussion. No slash fic...

Maybe a little slash fic.


New to Star Trek and wondering where to start?


Rules

1 Be constructiveAll posts/comments must be thoughtful and balanced.


2 Be welcomingIt is important that everyone from newbies to OG Trekkers feel welcome, no matter their gender, sexual orientation, religion or race.


3 Be truthfulAll posts/comments must be factually accurate and verifiable. We are not a place for gossip, rumors, or manipulative or misleading content.


4 Be niceIf a polite way cannot be found to phrase what it is you want to say, don't say anything at all. Insulting or disparaging remarks about any human being are expressly not allowed.


5 SpoilersUtilize the spoiler system for any and all spoilers relating to the most recently-aired episode. There is no formal spoiler protection for episodes/films after they have been available for approximately one week.


6 Keep on-topicAll busmittions must be directly about the Star Trek franchise (the shows, movies, books, etc.). Off-topic discussions are welcome at c/Quarks.


7 MetaQuestions and concerns about moderator actions should be brought forward via DM.


Upcoming Episodes

Date Episode Title
11-28 LD 5x07 "Fully Dilated"
12-05 LD 5x08 "Upper Decks"
12-12 LD 5x09 "Fissure Quest"
12-19 LD 5x10 "The New Next Generation"
01-24 Film "Section 31"

Episode Discussion Archive


In Production

Strange New Worlds (TBA)

Section 31 (2025-01-24)

Starfleet Academy (TBA)


In Development

Untitled theatrical film

Untitled comedy series


Wondering where to stream a series? Check here.

Allied Discord Server


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Just delaying the inevitable given netflix kills shows after the 2nd season

[–] ray@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not always. Sometimes they do it after the first season.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

only if there are gay people involved and being happy

also i'm still angry and bitter about gypsy

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's at least one more season than Paramount gave us.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Technically, they’re the ones giving us the second season (as in they’re still paying for production), but they’re not the ones streaming it.

I still don’t get why they’re doing this.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Paramount+, the streamer, cancelled it.

CBS Studios, the producer, kept it going and found a new buyer.

Two separate entities, even though they're both subsidiaries of the same parent company.

[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That clears it up for me thanks

[–] FelipeFelop@discuss.online 11 points 1 year ago

Apparently it’s a tax write off.

It’s risky though because a) Star Trek is no longer all in one place b) if it’s a hit then Netflix benefit.

[–] koreth@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don’t think Netflix actually cancels shows after two seasons any more often than other networks do.

Somehow people got it into their heads that Netflix is far more cancel-happy than its competitors, but if you look at the numbers, traditional TV networks have had like a 50% cancellation rate for decades.

Even TOS was cancelled after two seasons!

If Netflix is more prone to cancelling shows at all, which I’m not convinced is even true, it can’t be by an enormous margin.

Actually there’s both metric evidence and statements by senior Netflix executives that a show has to do well in the first few weeks to be renewed.

They’re also very committed to their drop it all at once, or at most in 2 parts per season.

So it creates an environment where shows are rarely renewed unless they are top of the streaming charts.

They may have a different decision criteria for kid and family shows though.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was an article a few weeks ago about how Netflix only has about a 15% cancellation rate. Unfortunately there was no deep dive into the data, so the figures are suspect. A few factors that weren't considered:

  • A very significant percentage of Netflix programming is reality TV and cheap junk. This doesn't get cancelled because well, it's cheap.
  • Many series don't get cancelled, they just aren't renewed. If Netflix tells the producers this is the last season, they're gonna rush the storyline to some kinda ending regardless of whether it was originally supposed to stretch several more seasons.
[–] Disgustoid@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but if anyone kills the show, wouldn't it be Paramount? Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service.

I know people have their issues with Netflix but I'm just relieved it's not Peacock or some other service no one cares about.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service.

Just as a TV network "cancels" a series by deciding not to order/air it, Netflix could do the same. Theoretically.

[–] Bel_Shamharoth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But it seems clear at this point that Paramount believes that it'll be able to make a return on its investment, so it's just a matter of where the show eventually lands, not if the new season gets created.

Unless they do like WB did for Batgirl, and shitcan the entire thing permanently after production is complete, for a tax write-off.

To be clear, I was being completely hypothetical. It makes no sense for Netflix to cancel something they literally just bought.

[–] nocturne213@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Sadly they gave Manifest a 3rd and 4th season.