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Antinatalists constantly tell people to kill their offspring. I argue on the same level as antinatalists.
If the cause is to end the suffering that humankind causes then there is only one solution.
If my notions of the world are wrong, and humankind really is only a burden, then youre indirectly also calling for genocide.
You think that isn't fucked up?
Some do, sure, but that's what what antinatalism is. This is like saying "vegans constantly tell meat eaters to kill themselves." Yes, some do, but the point of veganism isn't the death of meat eaters.
No, you argue on your deranged level by justifying it with your antinatalist boogey man. You're like those YouTube conservatives who put up a picture of a blue haired teenager on screen and saying "this is who the liberals are."
This is like saying the way to end violence done in the name of religion is to kill off all religious people. There's more that goes into getting to an end solution than just immediately jumping to it. And it also seems like you think antinatalists entire existence is about making antinatalism, like there's nothing else besides this.
You seem to not know what the word "natalism" means. It's about bring people into the world. It has nothing to do with people who are already living.
And killing off all living people isn't a genocide. It's "speciocide." Completely different things. Comparing antinatalists with people who commit genocides is unbelievably unhinged, but I should have seen it coming from someone like you.
The only thing I think is fucked up in this discussion is people who only believe in antinatalism-lite for eugenic reasons and, of course, you.
I concede. My understanding of antinatalism was wrong. i apologize for being a fuckwit.
No they don't. I think you are fucked up - an angry troll - and this whole convo is now a waste of resources.
No, antinatalism does not call for genocide. Genocide would be a violation of human rights, not having children isn't violating anyone's human rights.