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[–] ApostleO@startrek.website 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wow, I legitimately never knew this. I thought all these civilizations were in the Alpha Quadrant. I only remembered the Beta Quadrant being mentioned once in TOS.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think the much more frequent mentions of the Alpha quadrant in TOS are less about where the Federation was located and more about where the Enterprise was assigned to explore on its five-year mission.

[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah quadrants don't pop up with regularity until the TNG. The movies make some mention, but TOS is set during the exploratory days where no one really knows what's out there

[–] LaggyKar@programming.dev 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And of course later on the alpha quadrant gets most of the mentions since that's where the wormhole to the gamma quadrant is located. Though presumably Voyager would have spent half of their voyage home in the beta quadrant, had they not found a shortcut.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

but when The Romulans are tricked into invading through the wormhole by the founders they do it with the excuse of making safe/saving the appha quadrant.

Although I am only halfway through DS9 I assumed the federation, Klingon and Romulans are all within the alpha quadrant.

[–] 1simpletailer@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago

The reality is that during the time of 90's Trek there were never any official maps of the Star Trek Galaxy put out. They were kind of just making it up on the fly. So yeah DS9 does make it seem like all the major powers are located at least partially in the Alpha Quadrent. As far as I know we didn't get any official galactic maps till the 2000's, and they were just doing their best to make the haphazard and inconsistent geography of the Star Trek Galaxy make sense.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Quadrants never made sense to be. Wouldn't you want to with octants - having the center of the galaxy being the dividing point?

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I don’t see why you would want some random arm of the spiral to be the dividing point.

But quadrants still make sense though.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I spose a galaxy is largely planar. Makes sense

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah I was thinking a spiral galaxy such as ours, split it into quadrants. There’s some level of depth there, but still relatively “flat”

Still doesn’t quite match up with OPs pic, which might be canon?