Jokes aside: scholars think that the Israelites were a group of Canaanites who lived as "outcasts" in the hinterlands and seized the cities after the bronze age collapse.

So Israelites came when the Canaanites collapsed but the causality is different than depicted in the bible. Also they weren't that foreign in the first place.

[+] Ducks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure why you put "history" into quotation. I was referring to history as in archeology.

The arguments are according to pottery and art in general, linguistics and I think genetics too. The first israelite settlements were in the north and therefore not were you would expect them if they arrived from Egypt. I don't know if Abraham was a historic figure and it honestly doesn't really matter.

[–] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, iirc the Isrealite ethnic group was a combination of Canaanites and tribes from near Canaan that invaded during the Bronze Age Collapse. Though the religion is mostly Canaanite-derived, Yahweh and Elohim, the two main titles/names used to describe the Abrahamic God in the Torah are descended from the Canaanite gods Yaweh and El, who were syncretized together into a single god sometime before/during the early 1st temple period.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Eyuppp

[–] Basuliic@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This might surprise you but Bible is new book written not so long ago while Israely were there from 10000 b.c. Fighting other local tribes until Muslims where invented and came with all their sadistic hate to other nations and killing infants just like they behave now. No excuses. They need to be wiped out, like Russia and other tumors on Earth.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This might surprise you but Bible is new book written not so long ago while Israely were there from 10000 b.c.

Verifiably no, there's argument at to if ancient Israel ever existed or of out was a loose confederation like the early German empire.

Fighting other local tribes until Muslims where invented and came with all their sadistic hate to other nations and killing infants just like they behave now.

There's exactly zero proof of that and literally no one knows who started what or when.

No excuses. They need to be wiped out, like Russia and other tumors on Earth.

Like you perhaps.