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[โ€“] reinar@distress.digital 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just because you're paid well doesn't mean others are not being mistreated

FTFY
without unions there could be a huge salary disparity between devs in the same role, in the same company, even in the same project. I've personally witnessed more than 2x, heard about even more.

Sometimes it's more than justified with individual's performance and impact, sometimes it's not. Some people are just better skill-wise, some people are better at applying pressure on their employer, holding business-critical knowledge hostage or simply negotiating.

Point here is - while unionizing might make things better on average, there would be a very real pushback from people who are benefitting from current system and this is not necessarily management. For management in some cases it would be even a net benefit, since they don't have to deal with primadonnas and someone tying things to themselves just for leverage.

As an engr manager, I've often seen disparity as a result of being hired during good years vs bad years for the company. Or when someone gets a better offer to leave, the company may change their pay but no one else's. Or hiring externally vs a transfer from another internal team. Or whether the team is coding for frontend web vs dev tools, even if using the same language. Or if female.

It's always a challenge for one person to fix -- with HR, with the department head, with yearly budget. And sometimes fixing one disparity means not having the sway to fix another as well.

Which is to say -- pay transparency and unions are good for everyone. And if the company can't afford to treat the employees equitably, then the company shouldn't exist. (Or it should reduce its avocado toast budget.)