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Are TERF-centric magazines allowed on this insurance? (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago by CptVimes@kbin.social to c/kbinMeta@kbin.social

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https://kbin.social/m/modernmisogyny
I ran across that magazine recently and every post is transphobic af. Does that fit within kbin.social's code of conduct?

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[–] czech@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, right- There are no fascists but if there are it's the leftists! Thanks for a good laugh today. Don't ever let facts get in your way, bud.

[–] 10A@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm, let's break it down:

a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti)

Could be leftists, conservatives, or any other political group.

that exalts nation and often race above the individual

Well that excludes conservatives, because conservatism celebrates rugged individualism.

Leftism, by contrast, embraces groups above individualism. This is what conservatives usually refer to as neo-Marxism. It's also known as identity politics. It's this idea that we're all members of a group, and that group gives us our identity. Then with intersectionality, you have multiple groups defining identity.

Two caveats:

Christians are the exception to the rule, where many conservatives do embrace an identity that can be defined as a group.
Leftists do exalt groups above the individual, but those groups are not normally the nation (at least not in the US).

and that stands for a centralized autocratic government

Yes, in general, conservatives support small government, while leftists prefer government regulations over private business, government handouts for the poor, government taxation of the wealthy, and government control of every little thing in life — basically big government.

Centralized? In the US, centralized means federal control whereas decentralized means State and local control. Leftists generally prefer the former, whereas conservatives generally prefer the latter.

headed by a dictatorial leader

Not applicable in the US, but I wouldn't put it past the Left in the near future.

severe economic and social regimentation,

Yep, see this thread for instance. Leftist love regimented control over what we're allowed to think, and they love silencing the opposition.

and forcible suppression of opposition

Oh, you mean like when Biden has his primary opponent, Trump, tied up in court with accusations and a threat of imprisonment? Or, you mean like this very thread where leftists are trying to silence the TERFs? Yes, leftists absolutely love the forcible suppression of their opposition.

In conclusion, no, it's not a perfect fit for leftists, but it's loosely close — and it certainly doesn't fit conservatives even slightly.

[–] czech@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great theory, but lets take a look at reality.

that exalts nation and often race above the individual

Have you heard of MAGA?

and that stands for a centralized autocratic government

While Trump announced he "plans to eliminate executive branch constraints on his power if he is elected president in 2024"

headed by a dictatorial leader

See the last point..

and forcible suppression of opposition

Like Jan 6th.

You can't just make up whatever you want when you're not in /r/conservative. You are constrained by reality. Nobody is here to delete my posts and ban me for you.

[–] 10A@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, well the MAGA crowd isn't very conservative if you ask me, and personally I support DeSantis. I think Democrats are strongly pushing for a Trump nomination because they know he's unelectable, and it's an easy play.

But to your point, I concede that most people do consider MAGA to be right wing, and that Trump has on several occasions said things suggesting he'd like an autocracy. I think we can agree that'd be undesirable. I just don't think it's very conservative.

Like Jan 6th.

All that was, was a group of jaded voters who believed (rightly or wrongly) that there was election fraud. Personally I see no evidence of fraud substantial enough to change the election. But at the same time, I recognize that for someone who truly did believe there was election fraud, they were upset and they wanted to protest about it. That's all it was — a protest that was legitimate based on what they believed.

You are constrained by reality. Nobody is here to delete my posts and ban me for you.

And I'm glad about that, 100%. I wouldn't want you banned.

But back to the definition, you can't just pluck a couple of words out of there and say it's a match. The whole definition fits the left way better than the right, and yet in truth doesn't fit either completely.

[–] danhakimi@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

"lol, I hate the main conservative group in the US because they're not the right kind of ~~Scotsman~~ conservative. Instead, I love the guy who been pushing the most extreme book-banning policy in the US."

did you forget that this was a conversation about fascism when you brought DeSantis up, or do you not know who he is?

(rightly or wrongly)

lol no

But at the same time, I recognize that for someone who truly did believe there was election fraud

who do you think tricked them into believing that? or do you think it was all one massive coincidence?