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[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly? Really disappointed. Once again Google has done a decent job on the software and AI side and totally phoned it in on the hardware.

There is nothing interesting at all happening on the hardware side. Identical design, no increase in storage or ram, no maglock Qi2 charging, STILL no DP-Alt for display out so no Dex like feature, I could go on. To do such a minimal refresh then have the gall to charge $150 CAD more than last year while locking extra features behind the Pro model?

I struggle to see how this could be considered a good launch. They are trying to command premium prices based on software improvements alone, but with mediocre hardware that will never work. Pixel phones do not hold their value for this reason, and the price will fall with the 8a comes out and has all the identical software features at a fraction of the price.

I will give koodos on the one big thing though, and that's the 7 years of OS updates. That really makes it hard to consider buying a 7 or 7a when the 8 comes with support like that. It will be very interesting to see if the 8a has the same guarantee (same chip so it should) or if they gatekeep that artificially to sell the higher tier.

I also would have liked to see something novel here for repairability. If they had come out with a new design where the battery was easily accessible that would have gone a long way to prove sustainability and comply with the upcoming EU legislation. As it stands I'm not sure 7 years of OS updates are really that important because the phone will not last that long due to already middle of the road hardware and poor repairability.

TL:DR Google has yet again released a mediocre phone with a high price tag.

[–] meullier@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Design wise they are following apple Samsung keeping same-ish design for brand recognition

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that's giving them a bit too much credit. Also, when I say design I don't mean they have to ditch the visor, which honestly is the only unique thing they have. I'm saying do something different with the camera punch hole like Samsung did when they put a screen in front of it, or add repairability features, or mag charging, etc.

You're right that we're in an era of every phone being a flat slab so you want some visual differentiator, and I honestly think the visor (back when it was all black like the pixel 6) looks better than the exposed grouping of cameras the iPhone has. They can keep that overall look for all I care, just... try. Try to do something interesting or novel, or don't ask flagship prices.

[–] meullier@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think its a good indicator that Google isn't doing anything crazy with this device and trying to keep it mainstream, this suggest they are serious about it. But I get your point love the time when every one was trying something new something different

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I don't share your optimism on this. I see what you're saying where some of these features can seem gimmicky, however there is quite a list of flagship features that they have excluded that are not gimmicky and in fact quite mainstream.

Qi2 (magnetic alignment wireless charging) is not gimmicky at all and is incredibly useful ever for the average person. Apple users love this and there are lots of accessories for it.

Ultrasonic fingerprint sensors are in most high end phones and solve the problem some people have with the optical ones Google continues to use. It also doesn't flah you in the face at night.

IR cameras for more accurate face unlock allow the feature to work in low light instead of the algorithms google is using on a regular camera.

They opted not to use the new GN2 camera sensors, instead sticking with the older model.

I could go on and on, but you get the picture. Google is releasing a midrange phone with midrange specs at a flagship price, hoping their software will make up the difference. For some it will, for others it won't.

I'll be waiting to see how the 8a turns out because I am willing to accept these corner cuts at a midrange price.

[–] signs23@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I think there could be a big hardware change for people who are interested in the photo area. I want to see how that bigger sensor and AI performs. Currently there are not many brands who stand a chance sgainst the Pixel photo quality. Smartphones resching a goof point for a second camera.

But besides this, i also agree that locking Software features is BS and they should not copy Apple with that.