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Knowledge silos and expertise are two sides of the same coin. From full stack engineering to DevOps practitioner, our industry loves to pretend everyone can do everything. We’re an industry of hobbyists. We love to tinker. I don’t know if we are fooling ourselves or if the industry has been exploiting our hobby-driven nature, but it’s time for DevOps to get thrown out of an airlock.

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[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe if people spent a bit of time making producible environments and bundled stuff properly we wouldn't be in this mess. DevOps is one of the side effects of the Docker virus and the "cool" architectures and stuff that is so complex that nobody can re-install/re-configure in a reasonable amount of time.

[–] lightrush@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, DevOps is older than Docker for sure. We were doing DevOps on an OpenStack private cloud before Docker was on the radar. DevOps has nothing to do with tech and everything to do with non-technical people imagining theoretical benefits if "silos were broken", etc.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, you're completely right. However for the general public / most companies DevOps only became a thing when they moved into Docker and realized things were so out of hand at that point they had to hire specific people to handle the issue... then proceeded to call them DevOps (among other things). And yes, this completely subverts the DevOps philosophy as it got kind of "productized".