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We are contacting you regarding a past Prime Video purchase(s). The below content is no longer playable on Prime Video.

In an effort to compensate you for the inconvenience, we have applied a £5.99 Amazon Gift Card to your account. The Gift Card amount is equal to the amount you paid for the Prime Video purchase(s). To apologize for the inconvenience, we've also added an Amazon Gift Certificate of £5 to your account. Your Gift Card balance will be automatically applied to your next eligible order. You can view your balance and usage history in Your Account here:

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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 43 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If people suddenly collectively understood they're paying for basically nothing it would probably spur large-scale revolution.

[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think people already understand this, they just don't care as long as their devices play the media they want to consume.

The only people I see that care about this issue strongly are people who fully understand how this works and prefer archival-friendly formats such as physical media or DRM-free downloads.

That Amazon refunded nearly 2x the purchase price for the inconvenience seems more than fair, imho. I looked it up, and it covers a purchase of a Blu-Ray of the same movie on Amazon, so you'd have a path to complete resolution here.

I hate plenty of Amazon's practices, but I really don't see any level of controversy here.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think people already understand this, they just don’t care as long as their devices play the media they want to consume.

[...] Amazon refunded nearly 2x the purchase price [...] it covers a purchase of a Blu-Ray of the same movie on Amazon, so you’d have a path to complete resolution here.

Isn't this a tacit acknowledgement that either the consumer may not have understood that their purchase was revocable, or that there is not a true 'complete resolution', since the path to complete resolution is a physical replacement (and not persistent access to a digital distribution)?

People who purchase content through a digital distributor are doing so under the common understanding of "purchase" as an exchange of money for personal ownership. The word for the arrangement described here then isn't purchase, it's lease.

If Amazon or any other digital distributor actually offered purchases of digital copies of content, people would obviously choose it over access to a title that can be revoked at any time. The legality of the practice isn't really what is in question here, it's the suggestion that this is an informed consumer choice that is. And even if the consumer was fully cognizant of the temporary nature of the arrangement, they still do not have a true alternative for digital copies.

[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Isn’t this a tacit acknowledgement that either the consumer may not have understood that their purchase was revocable, or that there is not a true ‘complete resolution’, since the path to complete resolution is a physical replacement (and not persistent access to a digital distribution)?

The consumer not understanding something is different than the consumer not being provided truthful information. A consumer might also misunderstand the degree to which the own the physical media they purchase, in that they cannot redistribute or exhibit it without an additional license agreement.

People should understand their rights better, but people might also not care about these rights enough to care much, which is fine, we have to pick our battles.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago

Except the agreement is intentionally misleading. To this moment, the phrasing on Google TV is to either "rent" or "purchase" titles. In most other types of exchange, the "seller" of a "purchase" transaction can't terminate the exchange on a whim, with no recourse.

Can we really blame consumers for being mislead by the intentionally misleading language of TRILLION dollar companies?

Companies with this much control over the market shouldn't be allowed to run roughshod over digital media agreements. People want ownership over the media they pay for, just like people want ownership over the homes they pay a mortgage on. That isn't an option that's being provided, but instead they're being fed a misleading alternative that shares the same language.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

All those tv junkies would have to get off of their couches though

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

He received what he paid for and then got his money back

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In the form of Amazon exclusive currency*

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They refund in the same format the purchase was made

[–] Elivey@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you read the message from the screen shot it says in the form of an "Amazon gift card".

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, which strongly suggests the initial purchase was via Amazon gift card.

He then got an additional $5 amount, doubling what he "spent."

This post is rage bait over nothing consequential.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is some clarification we need. Is this an original post?

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's from around this thread, and you can see the additional credit in the image above.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 11 months ago

It wasn't a refund.

[–] atyaz@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Textbook example of the frog in boiling water. No one would have accepted this behavior before, but now we're so used these big companies doing whatever they want, we have no problem shrugging off whatever they do.

I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that if you're not actively sabotaging these companies (through piracy at least), you're morally in the wrong.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No one would have accepted this behavior before

Are you suggesting no one has used Steam in the past 20+ years?

I’m slowly coming to the conclusion that if you’re not actively sabotaging these companies (through piracy at least), you’re morally in the wrong.

Lol

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 4 points 11 months ago

Right, because the phrase "digital purchase" clearly indicates that you don't own the media.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 1 points 11 months ago

I think people already understand this, they just don’t care as long as their devices play the media they want to consume.

I think you are too optimistic on this.