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[–] agegamon@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sorry, I hate Elon and Tesla (and with good reason) but saying that an EV is rolling e-waste is going too far.

My model 3 has been bulletproof for the last five years. It's a 2017 model, one of the earliest, so take that for what you will. The earliest models like mine were apparently some of the better ones until 2021+ model years. I wouldn't consider buying one now due to Elon's tomfuckery and the unresolved racism issues within Tesla, but to claim that they're rolling trash isnt correct.

Plus, the fact is that virtually all cars (ICE models as well!) are rolling out of factories with dozens of integrated computers and touchscreens. It's very hard here in the US to get something cheap that doesn't have any electronics - basically imposible. And, if you do the compromise on cheaper and fewer electronics, the reality is that the poor grade of those cheap electronics will actually lead to a shorter lifespan and more overall repairs.

I'm not suggesting for that reason to go buy an EV - certainly not a new Tesla. A used one might be fine. But more broadly, electronics in cars (not just EVs) are really a huge problem. Unless they're designed with repairability and durability in mind, all new cars have this issue, and you can't single out Tesla for this.

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago

I’m glad you’ve had a good experience with your Model 3. Genuinely. I hope it serves you very well and remains reliable for years to come! Nobody is judging you for adopting an EV prior to knowing how much of a fool Elon is.

My issue isn’t with the ethics there. It’s with Tesla’s notorious build quality and reliability issues. And with them making things cheaper and cheaper, this can’t bode well.

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-reliable-car-brands-toyota-lexus-bmw-kia-hyundai-honda-tesla-2022-11?op=1

https://thenextweb.com/news/study-tesla-likely-us-worst-carmaker-reliability-build-quality-paint-battery

It’s just like how I consider Jeeps to be junk as well.

[–] NeadReport@social.vivaldi.net 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@agegamon @Sneptaur
What's the end-of-life plan for disposing of EV car batteries?

[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

Throw them into the ocean, same as all car batteries

[–] Harlan_Cloverseed@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Have you ever heard of Google