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LoglineA distress call from Lt. Noonien-Singh compels Spock to disobey orders and take the USS Enterprise and its crew into disputed space, risking renewed hostilities with the Klingons in a bid to aid their shipmate.

Written by Henry Alonso Myers & Akiva Goldsman

Directed by Chris Fisher


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[–] LibraryLass@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I woulda liked "four nostrils, but otherwise the TNG design" to become the standard.

[–] FreezePeach@twit.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@LibraryLass The Klingons are supposed to have an empire, right? Trek never really explores this. Why should there only be one type of Klingon?

[–] LibraryLass@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Empire" generally implies "imperialism" which generally implies a racial hierarchy. Or at least that's one argument.

[–] FreezePeach@twit.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@LibraryLass I’m not sure I want to see racist Klingons but a racial hierarchy implies more than one race and I’d like to see that represented.

I’d argue we are seeing that represented. It should be encouraged.

[–] LibraryLass@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We provably aren't seeing that, as there are characters (Kor, L'rell) who have appeared in more than one variant of the Klingon makeup. The implication is obviously that these are different interpretations of a single species' appearance.

[–] FreezePeach@twit.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@LibraryLass ok, good point. I’d still like to see multiple races/species in the Klingon Empire.

The Romulan Empire at least had Remans

[–] xgebi@hachyderm.io 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@FreezePeach @LibraryLass Klingon empire has other races until they flee. In ENT episode 2x19 Judgement Archer got into prison for helping them flee

I understood Klingons to be more of scorched earth imperialists

[–] LibraryLass@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah. I would also guess most of the Rura Penthe prisoners in The Undiscovered Country are from Klingon subject races.

[–] LibraryLass@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I certainly would as well. (Actually I'm glad you mention Romulans as they provide another data point regarding this matter. The same individuals-- the Bird of Prey Commander and Sub-Commander-- at the same time-- the shared events of "Balance of Terror" and "A Quality of Mercy"-- show different variations of the Romulan makeup.)