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submitted 1 year ago by Blursty@lemmygrad.ml to c/ukraine@lemmy.ml

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[–] RTRedreovic@feddit.ch 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ukraine does have a Nazi issue and so does Russia. Ukraine falls under the category of a third world, that is, a semi colonial comprador regime. However bootlicking the Russian Imperialist Regime and its false "DeNazification" narrative doesn't make your position any better. As far as class analysis goes, the primary contradiction in Ukraine today are those of the Ukrainian Working Class against both the Russian and Yankee Imperialists. In fact I will say, Brutal death to the Hitlerite Putin Regime and glory to the Ukrainian Masses.

[+] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml -6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ukraine does have a Nazi issue and so does Russia. Ukraine falls under the category of a third world, that is, a semi colonial comprador regime.

Agreed.

However bootlicking the Russian Imperialist Regime and its false “DeNazification” narrative doesn’t make your position any better.

You don't think Ukraine should be denazified? Russia is not nearly at the imperialist stage. These are American propaganda talking points. Next you'll be saying "Sovereign" like you think it means something.

As far as class analysis goes, the primary contradiction in Ukraine today are those of the Ukrainian Working Class against both the Russian and Yankee Imperialists.

This is not the material reality on the ground. The vast majority are suffering under the delusions brought about by their American propagandising for decades.

In fact I will say, Brutal death to the Hitlerite Putin Regime and glory to the Ukrainian Masses.

Well now you just told on yourself. You're just trying to co-opt leftist verbiage and shoehorn it into support for fascist Ukraine.

[–] RTRedreovic@feddit.ch 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't think Ukraine should be denazified? Russia is not nearly at the imperialist stage. These are American propaganda talking points. Next you'll be saying "Sovereign" like you think it means something.

This pathetic argument of Denazification won't get you anywhere. And if you seriously want denazification then only a Proletarian Revolution can achieve it. Not an invasion by an Imperialist Power using the worthless slogan to fuel its stagnant oligarchial businesses.

Adding on to that, pick one, Imperialist or a semi colony. There is no such thing as "not nearly at the imperialist stage". This is only a foolish person's way to escape rationale. As of today, the Global Capitalist Economy is very interconnected and well established. So nations can either exist as Imperialist Overlords or as Subservient Semi Colonies wherein the former extracts, discriminately, the resources and labour of the latter to generate Capital.

Labelling everything that stands against your Revisionist views as American Propaganda only hints at your lack of content.

And yes, Ukraine does have a full right to its Sovereignty.

This is not the material reality on the ground. The vast majority are suffering under the delusions brought about by their American propagandising for decades.

This word salad has nothing of substance to say about the Class Contradictiona within Ukraine. You can keep throwing around the word 'Propaganda' everywhere, it will have no worth at all. Your post history suggests your unproductive good-for-nothing nature either way.

Well now you just told on yourself. You're just trying to co-opt leftist verbiage and shoehorn it into support for fascist Ukraine.

My politics align with Marxism-Leninism-Maoism so I am not co-opting anything. If you fail to understand the very basic concept of contradictions within the peoples then that is up to you.

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

And if you seriously want denazification then only a Proletarian Revolution can achieve it.

Famous Proletarian Revolutionary post war Germany has proven that I guess? Your inability to agree that denazification is a good thing is noted.

Adding on to that, pick one, Imperialist or a semi colony. There is no such thing as “not nearly at the imperialist stage”. This is only a foolish person’s way to escape rationale.

You didn't read the book, I can tell.

Not an invasion by an Imperialist Power using the worthless slogan to fuel its stagnant oligarchial businesses.

The invasion was a response to US/NATO's aggression, denazification was just a small mention in a list of reasons.

Labelling everything that stands against your Revisionist views as American Propaganda only hints at your lack of content.

Says the guy who doesn't understand what imperialism is.

And yes, Ukraine does have a full right to its Sovereignty.

Tell that to the Americans and their Nazis who overthrew its democracy.

My politics align with Marxism-Leninism-Maoism

Aha, hence your general ignorance on ML thought. Says it all.