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[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

He’s almost certainly going to appeal whatever verdict he gets, claiming that he had ineffective legal council and that the judge was biased against him. Because the only effective reason you can appeal is if you don’t believe your trial was fair. So he’s basically stacking the “this trial was unfair” deck in his favor.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 90 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate to be that guy, but you can't appeal on ineffective assistance of counsel in a civil proceeding.

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since when has something being legal or not ever stopped Trump from trying it?

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what you mean exactly in this context? Are you saying he will try to appeal on those grounds anyway? If that is what you are saying then it doesn't work like that because the appeals court will simply throw out the appeal for lack of standing I believe.

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's exactly what I'm expecting would happen. Trump submits paperwork trying to appeal, it gets rejected for not being valid grounds to appeal, and he cries persecution in the media.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, well in that case then I guess I agree with you. Both because that is his M.O. and also because his legal team in this specific case is especially incompetent.

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I'd love to watch him cry about it in jail, but I'm not hopeful he'll actually end up there.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“My trial was unfair!”

“On what grounds?”

“I made it unfair for myself!”

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Your honor, I object!

And why is that?

Because it's devastating to my case!

https://youtu.be/St_Abko0Jfs?si=Yb8ma4gk_Aezw_IR

[–] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

RBG was too ______ to retire as well.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This oversight was first reported over two weeks ago, yet he hasn’t mentioned it or taken action in any way. Wonder if that would have an effect on such an appeal.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it would because it is unlikely this case would have been granted a jury trial anyway due to New York law. There are specific requirements for requesting a civil jury trial in New York, and all the legal analysis I have seen has suggested they would not have met that bar.

Jury Trials are onerous on the public and the judicial system, but are fundamentally necessary as well as guaranteed in criminal proceedings. However, for civil matters that is the exception rather than the rule.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Interesting, I hadn’t heard the possibility that he may have been denied a jury until now. Maybe that’s why he’s been quiet about it (until now of course.)

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Even if he did appeal, would that delay execution of the resulting court order?