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Instead of fixing the root causes of gang violence, Sweden is about to turn itself into a militarized surveillance state.
Wonderful.
The protection cited in the article is for buildings. Alright? No one is becoming a militarized surveillance state over buildings being protected by the military.
This is a prime minister wanting to look strong in tough times, not a country becoming a surveillance state.
Far right populists at work.
Trading freedom for security already.
Ah yes, it's far right populists that caused this and not the gangs who killed two people in shootings and another in an explosion in Stockholm just two days ago... lmao
The current minority govt. is center right conservatives at best my guy. And they cut s deal with SD. So uh what are u talking about?
I'm Swedish centre-right, and the last US political poll I did put me further to the left of Bernie Sanders as he was to Trump.
tl;dr: it's relative. shock.
Correct, the US parties have no bearing on the discussion whatsoever, why did you bring it up?
Sweden is following the path that France led.
Hope this country can find a solution other than burying the head in the sand (spoiler: France already demonstrated that it doesn't work)
Why is it always lemmy.world with all the stupid takes?
There is no migrant violence in Ba Sing Se
But...but...my cabbages!
Are you one if those people who say poor people are inherently more violent? Or do you understand systemic issues causing skewed statistics?
Also funny to see racists pushing the timeline around as they see fit.
The system of integration for migrants failed in Sweden (as it was hardly even existent in the first place). That's the systemic cause.
The acute symptom of this currently is gang violence. That said, the symptom is like a cancer that runs itself, the criminal systems underpinning gang violence are now established and you won't get rid of them by being nice anymore.
So you have to fight both the symptoms and the causes... Which Sweden is beginning to do. Reinstating and hardening penalties for organized and violent crime to get rid of the acute symptoms, as well as stopping the inflow of non-European migrants to stop the cause.
The Swedish government didn't say they'll never take non-European migrants again, but it's clear the whole system needs a huge overhaul.
Two people died? Two whole people?? OH MY GOD! We need to lock down everything right away! Oh my God 2 people died!
Seems like a bit of an overreaction to me.
3 people in 12 hours in one city was their last record. Gang-related killings have been steadily rising for years and they've currently reached a boiling point where dozens of people die every month just in Stockholm.
Dozens of people die in New York every week too. We don't call in the army.
Whataboutism be like
"Oh yeah, well, my uncle killed an entire playground full of kids. As retribution for another uncle who detonated a nuclear bomb on a factory making free antibiotics for the poor. Why just yesterday a bunch of hippies in Portland burned down a church full of worshippers because they don't pray to trees. I don't hear any Army choppers. This is America. We protect our own. Mostly. Sort of. We're a young country, still workshopping as it goes." tl;dr Dirty hippies are dangerous if you don't pray to trees.
That's two too many.
All countries sacrificed freedom for security already. Privacy has a mandated backdoor.
Sure, in some cases. Buuut this is a very clear push in a direction that grants the police more power and independence, while restricting freedoms of citizens, especially non-white passing.