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[–] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (52 children)

β€œSweden has never before seen anything like this,”

Sweden has since sharply restricted migration levels, citing rising crime levels and other social problems.

I’m personally very pro immigration and think we need to get better at it as climate refugees become more common.

How did things get so bad in Sweden? Like, did they fail to facilitate integration or was there an abnormally high level of criminals among their immigrant population?

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (32 children)

Failure to integrate is the right answer. At some point immigrant children ceased to have proper access to proper socio-economic status and a parallel society developed which, Scandinavians being Scandinavians, the majority ignored. It's been a difficult time for the prospects of youth in general but that hit the immigrant population way harder as they're not as embedded in the local social network, no "cousin of a parent owns a repair shop he'll give you a job and tide you over".

Active xenophobia isn't even needed, all that's need is a failure to see and care. It's also generally a urban problem, both because not enough care was taken to encourage immigrants to not be urbanites (a common bias with arrivals is that "city is where the jobs are, rural areas are shitholes" which isn't at all true for Europe in general), as well as urban society generally being ass at reaching out to people, smaller places are way more tight-knit.

Of course, with shit having hit the fan xenophobia then becomes an issue of its own reinforcing the very issues that caused everything, and down the shitchute we go.

I think you're making a very good point with the big city/rural areas argument. I'm sure most people, that have lived abroad would agree that surrounding yourself with people from similar origin is so incredibly easy. And to avoid that in big cities, where such societies are already established, someone has to purposely work on it. And that in itself is much more difficult and much lonelier than the alternative. And if your motivation for moving is solely economical, why would you do that?

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