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Authors using a new tool to search a list of 183,000 books used to train AI are furious to find their works on the list.

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[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell you what, you get a landmark legal decision classifying LLM as people and then we'll talk.

Until then it's software being fed content in a way not permitted by its license i.e. the makers of that software committing copyright infringement.

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What exactly was not permitted by the license? Reading?

[–] sab@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Using it to (create a tool to) create derivatives of the work on a massive scale.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

An AI model is not a derivative work. It does not contain the copyrighted expression, just information about the copyrighted expression.

[–] SirGolan@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

Wikipedia: In copyright law, a derivative work is an expressive creation that includes major copyrightable elements of a first, previously created original work.

I think you may be off a bit on what a derivative work is. I don't see LLMs spouting out major copyrightable elements of books. They can give a summary sure, but Cliff Notes would like to have a word if you think that's copyright infringement.

[–] lloram239@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Better tell that Google and their search index, book scanning project and knowledge graph.

[–] sab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't know those were LLMs, TIL.

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

Well when that happens we have laws. So no problems