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[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (27 children)

I'm surprised there hasn't been a proactive step to improving electrical safety in North America. As an onlooker, whose done zero research apart from watching YT videos, the regulations seem to be vague/relaxed.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (12 children)

Safety in North America is vague/relaxed in general compared to the rest of the developed world unfortunately.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (9 children)

It’s been code in most places to have receptacles installed with the ground connector facing up for years now.

It’s just that most houses were built 60 years ago, and almost no one pays to have their entire homes electrical system inspected and brought up to code.

[–] Drewdp@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There is no such code in the US, so unless you're talking about the cec idk where you got that idea.

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Technically speaking you're right. There is no true federal level law on electric code. But there is the NEC which is used by most states and most people would consider that the standard electrical code for the country even if that's not technically true.

[–] Spellinbee@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Can confirm. I bought a brand new house in 2019. All my outlets were ground down and my house passed the electrical inspection.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Funnily enough my house was built in the 50's or before, and all the outlets...there are a couple that are inexplicably sideways Chicago style but the rest of them are ground lug up.

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

A lot of electrical stuff which isn't allowed in new installations will still pass inspection in an existing property. Otherwise everybody would need to be rewiring their houses every time electric code changes. No (reasonable) inspector is going to make you swap all your outlets just because they're upside down. But if you are an electrician wiring new outlets then you would have to put them in the corect way.

Another big example of this is ungrounded outlets. You definitely aren't allowed to used ungrounded wire for any new instalation but if you own a house where ungrounded wire is being used then in most cases an inspector will not make you replace it as long as all the recepticals on it are swapped over to GFI outlets and none of them are in a kitchen or bathroom.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

OP stated the house was built in 2019. That's quite new.

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah. Somehow I missed that part in the all of 2 lines of text there. I am not the most observant aparently.

My best guess then is that outlet orientation just isn't part of their states electric code. To be fair I'm also not entirely sure if outlet orientation has even made it into the NEC or if it's just a best practice thing. It could also just be that their inspector didn't care. The few inspectors I've worked with always tended to not worry about the little stuff unless you did something to piss them off.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 months ago

Outlets ground down is also a safer orientation with regards to 90 degree plugs as pointed out in the video, so it's honestly the better orientation for many applications.

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