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[–] orclev@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I just hate all the extra clutter the extractor adds. It's really nice to just run some cat 6 to a Pi and call it a day. If I could spend an extra $50 to get a Pi or Pi-like device that came with PoE built in I would in a heartbeat.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know what you mean.
The problem is, actual POE powered computers end up being commercial display drivers or embedded/industrial systems. And that means a significant increase in price.

These devices are often plugged into things that require power. At which point, you can just power it locally. So the added cost and complication of POE isn't worth it.

Chances are, a lot of the things you are trying to do don't need a full SBC and Linux. But I don't know your situation.
Something like this: https://www.dfrobot.com/product-1286.html
Or this.
https://www.robotpark.com/Arduino-Ethernet-Microcontroller-With-PoE-Power-over-Ethernet-V3

If it's something like a screen/touchscreen interface, theres already power there...
But you could use an android TV, there are some that are POE powered, but most displays have a power source these days.

Things like Bluetooth or whatever, you can probably get off-the-shelf extenders or repeaters.

I'd love it if it was more common, gives an easy way to remotely power cycle devices. But the ridiculous extra cost that PoE enabled general purpose devices come with just isn't worth it for me.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Right now the main things I'm using it for is running PiHole and home-assistant, although there's a few other network services I'd like to run on a couple Pi's. So yeah, I can't really use embedded devices for that. I could use something like a NUC, but that's adding significant cost at that point, easily into the $200+ range, where I'm trying to keep it below $150. All my switches already provide PoE, and I need to run ethernet to the device anyway for network connectivity, so adding new PoE devices is literally just a single cable. If I'm powering them a more traditional way I've got to deal with a power brick and finding space in an already crowded UPS, or finding someplace to tack up a PoE extractor in a crowded shelf.