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What do you think of framework and their methods? (frame.work)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Tibert@compuverse.uk to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] aard@kyu.de 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One small issue that people seem to have, is their unwillingness to talk about core boot or libre boot, but that's a small thing.

It's a major issue for me - currently I'm keeping my old x230 alive, but eventually that'll have to be replaced.

I'm running it with heads, which allows me to do secure boot under my control. I don't really want to have my main notebook without that nowadays.

I don't like any of the current notebook keyboards, so it'll be a "build yourself" project anyway - and the framework mainboard would be nice as they keep the dimensions stable, even though I'm not a fan of some other hardware choices.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My impression of the GitHub discussion on core boot, was that it's on their backlog. But one of the bug submitters was very vocal, would a commitments, and basically got the developers to close the issue kind of emotionally.

I think it's something they want to do, long-term, but they're not actively working on it.

Out of curiosity what are the other hardware issues?

[–] aard@kyu.de 4 points 1 year ago

Out of curiosity what are the other hardware issues?

I'm generally not a friend of their USB-C expansion modules - which is mainly due to lots of experience trying to expand older notebooks with USB stuff. USB is not designed for devices to keep a state over suspends, so depending on what kind of hardware you plug in you get interesting results. This may be better with current spec (at least I hope they fixed some of that stuff when they worked on USB-C docking), but given how much I've seen fail I don't feel comfortable to fully rely on that.

I'd have preferred to have a few more mPCIe-slots (I think they just have one for the WLan module), and more storage slots (which I think they finally fixed with the latest mainboard version with two NVME slots). Also what they've done about the connection for the separate graphics card might solve my complaints about lack of mPCIe-slots.

If we not only look at the mainboard, but the complete notebook - I don't like the keyboard, the screen, the case in general, and the fixed battery - but unfortunately all those are bad on pretty much any notebook younger than 10 years.