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I don't think it aged well but haven and hearth blew my mind years ago how immersive and in depth it was.
Project zomboid doesn't have smelting right now but it it will eventually, but the crafting / gathering loop is pretty good and complex.
I loved the short time I played HnH but multi-client botting is the only way to keep up with everyone and it just turned me off of the whole game.
Oh yeah, I played it very small scale many years ago and never got into pvp or large scale competitive building so I only had local stories to keep me entertained. Had a small base with a few friends and we'd trade beeswax for low quality ores from a nearby big village so we could get some metal tools since we didn't have access to a mine.
It was always so exciting loading a chest full of valuables (to us at least it was a fortune), carrying it a boat, traveling 5-10 minutes down river to a big settlement and then yelling and trading outside of their gate. Then they carry out their goods while you anxiously wait there, not allowed to enter their big city 😅
The pvp, botting, cheaters and general dev attitude really turned me off that game but I'll always have fond memories of it.