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Beehaw* defederated us? (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They made the users suffer for their unwillingness to cope with their situation.

Instead of planning ahead and only accepting a limited amount of users, which would have severed only a fraction of users from us, they decided to grow to become one of the biggest instances, and now took some interesting communities with them, along with cutting off their own users from communities here.

I hope their user base migrates to other, more open instances, and the communities lost will spring into existence elsewhere.

[–] mercurly@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wow... I'm new here so I'm still learning how all this works but I tried to apply to beehaw at first and they were having severe issues with their approval system so I either got denied or, most likely, got stuck in application purgatory.

Honestly, with how Lemmy is set up, it seems like it makes more sense to cater your instance to a more niche crowd than "all nice people" like beehaw was attempting to do.

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What's most regrettable is the timing. Just when Lemmy had a big growth spurt, they cut off a big part of the community. We'll likely see this happen again in 2 weeks, when Reddit shuts down all 3rd party mobile apps, and again when they close old.reddit. I hope that some of the issues Lemmy currently faces will be fixed by then.

[–] TiffyBelle@feddit.uk 9 points 2 years ago

I'd argue it's perfect timing. Better that users across the broader fediverse know now that supporting Beehaw communities and helping them to grow with content won't be in the best interests of the fediverse more broadly, and to put their time and effort into communities hosted elsewhere before they'd grown even larger.

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm new here too, could someone explain the difference between Lemmy and Beehaw (and kbin which it looks like this is posted on?) and what it means that they're defederated?

[–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

beehaw.org is a Lemmy instance (server). kbin is a platform similar to Lemmy and it can federate with Lemmy instances, as well as integrate with them nicely (not the case with Mastodon and Lemmy/kbin). Defederation means cutting off ties with a certain instance. Beehaw defederated from sh.itjust.works and lemmy.world, which means that their users won't be able to see posts from these instances. On the other hand, members of sh.itjust.works and lemmy.world will be able to see beehaw's communities and posts, but can't post in them. A bit of a clusterfuck, I know.

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I appreciate the explanation. Are there any good articles that run down the way this whole thing is organized?

[–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

IDK, I learned this allong the way (empirically). Try Google, might return something relevant. Try search terms like "fediverse defederate", things like that.