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[–] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will they? How likely is a parent to actually have to have that discussion?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

More likely than anywhere else in the world!

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

School shootings are rare even here in the USA. We've had 15 since columbine, still to many but acting like they happen every day is bullshit. Even NPR called it out with this article:

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Source on the 15? Because your article dates from 2018.

What's the leading cause of child mortality in the USA?

What's the leading cause of child mortality in the Canada?

I'm using both these countries because they're very close, geographically and culturally...

Hint: One starts with a G and it's not the same as the other!

Edit: By the way, I didn't bring up school shootings, just child death, funny you tried to switch it to school shootings only...

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://apnews.com/article/nashville-school-shooting-covenant-school-5da45b469ccb6c9533bbddf20c1bfe16

It's near the bottom.

And child death? More children drown in pools each year than die from guns. Cars are still the number one cause of children dying.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2201761

Nope, firearms... and have you seen that downward trend on car death as they're getting safer and safer? Yeah, things don't look great for the future of your argument bud!

And...

The database *does not include school shootings in which fewer than four people were killed*, which have become far more common in recent years.

Monday's shooting at a private Christian grade school in Nashville marked the 15th time since 1999 that gun violence has left *four or more* dead in a school in the United States.

2 dead and 10 more hurt? Not a mass shooting based on their definition.

Yeah... so you're wrong.

Oh and, that's just schools, funny that you assume that children deaths related to guns only happen in schools.

[–] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, you have nothing but hyperbole. Fair enough, this is about what I'd expected.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

-Can't handle the truth? Guns are the number one child killer in the USA, it's the only country where it's the case.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2201761

And cars are just getting safer and safer, can you say the same about guns? Oh no, you can't, because killing is their purpose.

[–] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is largely irrelevant; try comparing our rates of child death by violence overall to other countries. I think you'll be surprised at how the US stacks up.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not irrelevant to what I was saying in the first place, that it's more likely than anywhere else in the world that you would need to explain to parents why their child got killed by a gun yet nothing is done to remove give from people's hands.

[–] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social -2 points 1 year ago

So you add hyperbole to hyperbole? Interesting. I hadn't realized I was talking with such a deeply unserious troll. Fair enough, I expected nothing less.