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Almost everything apple does nowadays is a marketing front, repairability, privacy, not including chargers, accessories and removing the headphone jack for the sake of the environment, and more to come.
Apple isn't alone in not providing chargers. My S23 Ultra didn't have one in the box.
But your S23 Ultra also uses the most common cable type for a charger. That isn't proprietary. That you likely already have a good several of.
If by “charger” you mean the brick that plugs into the wall, which I hope you do because it’s the only thing that Apple omits from the box, then Apple also uses that same cable type (USB type C). It’s only the other end of the cable that is proprietary. And the cable itself is included with the phone.
All of this is moot for the iPhone 15 pro and non-pro which are fully USB type C.
Wait... Wait, what? The new apple type-c cable has a proprietary end to it?
What the actual fuck? It's not just the standard USB-A? WHY?
No, it is usb-c - usb-c, like literally every phone produced in the last few years.
Sorry if my post was confusing. The first point was referring to cables for iPhones before the latest iPhone 15 models — previously, you’d get a cable that was standard USB-C on one end, and Lightning (the proprietary connector) on the other. You could use those cables along with any standard USB-C charging brick to charge the phone. My point was that the charging brick does not need to be proprietary, and the proprietary part (the cable) was included with the phone.
All iPhone 15 models use completely standard USB-C and come with a C to C cable in the box.
I think it’s a bit dishonest to imply this is the only reason they do things.
Privacy? I’d like to think that’s more than a marketing front considering how much data is actually worth.
Otherwise I totally agree with you
Actually, the whole Privacy part is one of the biggest gimmicks Apple has ever pulled.
Sure, it doesn't allow Meta and Google to not allow data collection, but research indicates Apple continues to collect the same amount of data. In the long run, I'm sure that Apple would also use this data to serve ads in their own way, just that they'll call it "iAds", and fanboys would cream their pants
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Bullshit - what “research”? Apple is in no way comparable to goddamn Google and Facebook here. Their ad sector is pretty much “display my app in the AppStore search if they search for similar things” and things like that, that only uses the actual search term, and very basic stuff about the user. They can make relatively much money on that, because they artificially own the whole “Apple market”, so they don’t have any competition there. They don’t fingerprint you across the whole internet, that’s for sure.
Before calling Bullshit on people, you could've done a simple Web search.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2204.03556
I don't think Apple is comparable to Google and Meta, yet. Allow them sole ownership of data on the phones, I don't expect that to hold true in a few years.
You don't think apple sells and uses your data?
Source for the love of fuck oh my god
God forbid someone ask for the factual backing to a claim being made.
Stay mad lolololol
I mean it was a simple search engine away.
https://www.wired.com/story/apple-privacy-data-collection/
I'm sorry you bought into Cupertino's bullshit. I know it was very expensive.
Yeah, google will return something for “covid is a hoax” as well, that doesn’t constitute a proof.
Also, from your very own article: “Broadly speaking, it collects a lot less information than Google or Facebook and has backed up its claims that it is privacy-focused”
Sorry I require people to back up their claims with evidence. Surely encouraging a culture of not backing anything up with proof will help with being the masses not knowing about these things.
Sorry you’ve been taught that you can just say thing and be believed. What’s the authoritarian lifestyle like?
Anyway, did you even read your own evidence lmfao. I’m gunna guess not and refrain from rebuttal so you can find a different source. If you did read it, lmk and I’d be glad to debate why this article outlines exactly why apple handles privacy the best and with very little concern when compared to any other phone provider barring custom builds and OS’s and what little information it does capture is less than what’s being exfiltrated during credit reporting bureau data breaches. Of which 2 of the major world providers have now been hit, one of which impacting 2/3 of Americans.
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That's why I used "Almost"
Privacy wise, Apple marketed its move as preventing apps from tracking you, when in reality what it did was make the Unique advertising id they have Made themselves Available to Apps Null if you opt out of tracking. It is like removing the harm they put in place by themselves .
(+) it doesn’t prevent app tracking as it can be done using other means and unique identifiers. They have lied about the scope and potency of this measure. while average Joe doesn’t care to verify their claims.
I’m gonna need some source for that last point, but I concede on what you’re saying for the first bit. When you say Privacy instead of “the advertising id debacle” it’s a bit confusing as privacy is a very large category and covers many other topics which they did not create but do protect against if we’re going to be fair and unbiased in our criticism.
It’s as much a “harm they put in place themselves” as website cookies are - these are technical artifacts that were maliciously used. It is just not arguing in good faith to claim they made it for tracking purposes - it’s like basic software development practice to create some unique IDs, and it has plenty useful roles.