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[–] FunkyMonk@kbin.social 93 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yahuh... now do one for police unions.

[–] Arrakis@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aw come on now, we can't be holding our public servants to account for their actions now can we? You silly billy

[–] jhulten@infosec.pub 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh sweetie... They're not servants of the PUBLIC...

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Well unless by public you mean the public sector of the economy and their property, then yes they're specifically intended to protect that (alongside private infrastructure owned by their lobbyists and benefactors) at the cost of everyone else.

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Police should have to carry professional insurance just like doctors carry malpractice insurance.

Change my mind.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think it will work at all. I think it would make the problem much worse, not better.

Think about that for a second: Police are never convicted, and rarely officially sanctioned. They always get away with it. Insurance will never pay out, so the cost of insuring officers will be next to nothing.

But, now we have an insurer with a vested interest in clearing the officer of wrongdoing, lest they be forced to pay a claim.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have a insurer with a vested interest in ensuring the officer doesn't fuck up in the first place. Insurers don't want claims at all, because whether they win or lose thats still money being spent, albeit more in the latter case.

Rates would go up due to the numerous claims against Officer McShooty (even if defended) and he wouldn't be able to afford it. He goes to another department? If they have insurance he's still in the system so...

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

I think what would actually happen is the the insurer would demand Officer McShooty sue these claimants for harassment, defamation of character, and receive the bulk of any awarded damages.

The overwhelming majority of absurd lawsuits, (like where an aunt sues her nephew for hugging her too hard) aren't brought by the named plaintiff, but by the plaintiff's insurer. The aunt isn't actually suing the nephew. The aunt's medical insurance sues the nephew's homeowner's or liability insurance.

I saw a video awhile back that presented a related argument. If everyone had life insurance, and those life insurance companies were all prepared to sue on our behalf, we would never have another wrongful death at the hands of a cop. Our insurers would sue the everyloving fuck out of the department to avoid being stuck with that bill. Facing formidable legal repercussions, police departments would finally have an incentive to clean house.

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They'd have to work a week of overtime to afford the sky high cost.

[–] techwithjake@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cause they don't already abuse the OT system?

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My joke was a little too subtle.

[–] techwithjake@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Fair enough. Text is hard to read sometimes. Cheers!