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[–] jorgesumle 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Are you going to argue that Russia is acting in self defense?

It seems like both regimes violated their treaties: Kiev Violates Minsk Agreement Causing Fighting To Resume In Ukraine. There was also an oral treaty that talked about eastern expansion of NATO (which some call "a terrorist organization"), but it wasn't written, as far as I know. The USA also acted in "self-defense" against many countries, nearly 400 according to Wikipedia.

[–] Francisco 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also, why does Russia not have loads of troops near the border with Finland?

Surely, if NATO is such a threat. Why?

[–] jorgesumle 0 points 2 years ago

I don't know you, but I'm being forced to pay more taxes and the inflation caused by the economic sanctions to support this puppet regime that bans all opposition, forces people to die on the battlefield and doesn't let people leave the country.

[–] Francisco 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Oral treaty", oral international treaty.... now that sounds like a heavily manipulative level of naivety.

[–] jorgesumle 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's the Russian narrative

Whataboutism. Internal conflicts are internal matters for sovereign nations.

There was no oral treaty. Russia never asked for anything to be enshrined in an agreement. Don't ask, don't get.

And anyone is free to join NATO, Russia tried to after all.

https://www.military.com/history/russia-once-tried-join-nato-alliance-formed-counter-threats-russia.html