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edit: hey guys, 60+ comments, can't reply from now on, but know that I am grateful for your comments, keep the convo going. Thank you to the y'all people who gave unbiased answers and thanks also to those who told me about Waydroid and Docker

edit: Well, now that's sobering, apparently I can do most of these things on Windows with ease too. I won't be switching back to Windows anytime soon, but it appears that my friend was right. I am getting FOMO Fear of missing out right now.

I do need these apps right now, but there are some apps on Windows for which we don't have a great replacement

  1. Adobe
  2. MS word (yeah, I don't like Libre and most of Libre Suit) it's not as good as MS suite, of c, but it's really bad.
  3. Games ( a big one although steam is helping bridge the gap)
  4. Many torrented apps, most of these are Windows specific and thus I won't have any luck installing them on Linux.
  5. Apparently windows is allowing their users to use some Android apps?

Torrented apps would be my biggest concern, I mean, these are Windows specific, how can I run them on Linux? Seriously, I want to know how. Can wine run most of the apps without error? I am thinking of torrenting some educational software made for Windows.



Let me list the customizations I have done with my xfce desktop and you tell me if I can do that on Windows.

I told my friend that I can't leave linux because of all the customization I have done and he said, you just don't like to accept that Windows can do that too. Yeah, because I think it can't do some of it (and I like Linux better)

But yeah, let's give the devil it's due, can I do these things on Windows?

  1. I have applications which launch from terminal eg: vlc would open vlc (no questions asked, no other stuff needed, just type vlc)
  2. Bash scripts which updates my system (not completely, snaps and flatpaks seem to be immune to this). I am pretty sure you can't do this on Windows.
  3. I can basically automate most of my tasks and it has a good integration with my apps.
  4. I can create desktop launchers.
  5. Not update my system, I love to update because my updates aren't usually 4 freaking GB and the largest update I have seen has been 200-300 mbs, probably less but yeah, I was free to not update my PC if I so choose. Can you do this on Windows? And also, Linux updates fail less often, I mean, it might break your system, but the thing won't stop in the middle and say "Bye Bye, updates failed" and now you have to waste 4GB again to download the update. PS: You should always keep your apps upto date mostly for security reasons, but Linux won't force it on you and ruin your workflow.
  6. Create custom panel plugin.

  1. My understanding is that the Windows terminal sucks? I don't know why, it just looks bad.

I am sure as hell there are more but this is at the top of my mind rn, can I do this on Windows. Also, give me something that you personally do on Linux but can't do it on Windows.

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[–] ParanoidFactoid@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been running some form of Unix since 1985. Transitioned from 386BSD to Linux in '93. The last version of Win I bought was in Win 3.0 in 1991. It was horrible.

That said, Win has the apps and is perfectly reasonable as an OS now. Where it's unreasonable is the privacy invasion and use tracking. I mean, a keylogger by MS? No.

Linux is a PITA. But it don't spy on me.

[–] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What got you onto Linux so early? Wasn't it much less practically useful than BSDs at that point?

[–] ParanoidFactoid@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No. Not at all.

386BSD was extremely limited. Originally, it only had support for the 386DX series. At the time, I had a 386SX. The kernel would not boot. So, I had to install on a friend's computer, download a source patch for the kernel, recompile (which took forever), and then burn a working boot disk for the 386sx.

It came on 50 floppies. Didn't have X11. Didn't have working SLIP (ip over serial, before PPP). Had a shit sh.

Linux came on a bootable CD with everything and as long as your hardware was compatible, it just worked.

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I feel like this is what people in this thread is missing. In a lot of ways, windows is far easier and better than Linux. It's absolutely why people use it. It why a lot of people who've tried Linux went back to Linux. Linux isn't perfect, in fact it's a pain in the ass but it doesn't spy on you.