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[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Exactly. We complainers aren't saying they can't post about politics, just requesting they post their political memes in the designated political meme space.

EDIT: A message to people from Hexbear

Thank you for your input, but I stopped responding to arguments here at least 24 hours ago because I can't juggle that many conversations at once. I would ask that you respect that and not continue to argue with me about what is and isn't political, because I'm just going to ignore it anyways. Thank you.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The concept of having 'free speech zones' where political speech is allowed is ... very inherently political though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone

Civil liberties advocates argue that free speech zones are used as a form of censorship and public relations management to conceal the existence of popular opposition from the mass public and elected officials.[24] There is much controversy surrounding the creation of these areas – the mere existence of such zones is offensive to some people, who maintain that the First Amendment to the United States Constitution makes the entire country an unrestricted free speech zone.[24] The Department of Homeland Security "has even gone so far as to tell local police departments to regard critics of the War on Terrorism as potential terrorists themselves."

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does being political mean to you?

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In this context, it's matters related to government, politicians, or the general culture of a country, in which there are two or more major camps of conflicting opinions, where a good deal of people in one or more of those camps view the other camp as evil because of their view.

If the post is in a community where only one of the camps is significantly present, but the post is attacking the other camp, it is still political.

Why do you ask? Are you hoping to expose some inconsistency in my definition? Maybe use it to call something I like political with the expectation that I'll disagree with you? Or were you expecting my definition to be biased, calling something political that shouldn't be, so that you could expose me as a moustache-twirling villain?

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (24 children)

So we can't post memes about ..... checks notes the general culture of our country?

So no memes about anything with literally any specifics.

You realize if you got your wish memses would just be "how many of yall like breathing"

Maybe you could point us to an example of an acceptable meme with no politics involved.

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (49 children)

You're pretty upset that I asked a question aren't you? I wonder why that is.

Government and politicians I think are pretty self explanatory and I would agree those are inherently political, no argument there.

What do you think is part of a general culture of a country, or not? How would you define culture that has conflicting opinions? Is it solely up to your discretion, or would you agree that if anyone has any disagreement about a meme that would make it automatically political?

Is this one political because it references the FBI, a governmental organization? https://startrek.website/post/1847371 I would argue that it is political.

Is this one political because it references culture related to advertising in capitalism? I would think everyone should agree that any reference to or commentary of an economic system is inherently political because of course economic systems are controversial. I don't see how anyone could argue that references to a combination of two major brands isn't a commentary on marketing: https://programming.dev/post/3200916

I mean this one references politics so it's clearly political right? https://lemm.ee/post/8502748

I'm just curious about what you and others think is political versus not. You can't have a discussion about if something should or should not be allowed if you can't clearly define the boundaries of that thing. I find the discussion around what is and isn't politics to be an interesting one, that's all.

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[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

general culture of a country

youre gonna have to get more specific there. what part of American "culture" grinds your gears and you want to see less of?

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

skibidi toilet memes are american culture and thus political

i don't make the rules

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

just requesting they post their political memes in the designated political meme space

How is everyone supposed to know what parts of reality and conceivable concepts are political to you and which parts of it are just the political status quo norms that you're so comfortable with that you don't notice it the way a fish doesn't notice water?

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Political memes are memes. sorry you dont like it sweetie

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

"Please keep your demonstration within the designated Free Speech Area"

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Exactly! Just like how nobody was saying Rosa Parks couldn't ride the bus. She would have gotten to her destination anyway had she just ridden at the back like we requested!

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

political memes are not comparable to segregation wtf, i dont mean to friendly fire but this take is not the dunk you think it is

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right. Wanting people who make you uncomfortable to go to their own area so that you don't have to see them or think about their political grievances has no parallels with segregation.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Look, yes obviously as socialists we are not welcome in most public places if we speak out, but of all places to make that claim Lemmy.ml is not the one. The mods here are comrades. This is, next to hexbear and grad, probably one of the online spaces most receptive to us. The lemmitor you were replying to has no institutional power against us at all. I hate to tone police but posting on Lemmy is not comparable to being Rosa Parks and trying to make a tortured analogy isn't helping anyone.

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[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

jesse-wtf incredibly bad comparison

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