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[–] NotErisma@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

got as progressive as they did.

Yeah the indigenous people of this land would like to have a word.

[–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago

They mean we got progressively less indigenous as we killed so so many of them.

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republicans: all migrants have to go home!

Indigenous: so when are you leaving?

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not going to pretend that not having borders is a solution to the problem, but I'm not going to pull the ladder up from the people looking for a better life, because that's exactly what my ancestors did, and the first batch of Europeans weren't exactly welcomed either.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

the first batch of Europeans weren't exactly welcomed either

Yeah, no shit? Genocidal colonialists weren't welcomed?

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you put it that way, oh look it's projection again. We can't let these foreigners in because they'll just murder us all.... because that's exactly what our ancestors did when they came here.

[–] grazing7264@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It really is projection, there's a saying that racists are afraid of being treated the same way that racists treat their victims

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the first batch of Europeans weren't exactly welcomed either.

Is that so? Don't you Americans even have a holiday celebrating that the natives gave you food and stuff?

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Americans have a holiday called Labor Day where service workers still have to work. I wouldn't read much into it.

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I meant is that it's an important historical event that the first settlers were welcomed. Not that this says anything about respect towards modern day first nations.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Much of what is taught about that historical event didn’t really happen, or was conflated together. No real evidence to suggest it’s proof of the settlers being welcomed any more than tolerance of a technologically superior group of people.