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LoglineA distress call from Lt. Noonien-Singh compels Spock to disobey orders and take the USS Enterprise and its crew into disputed space, risking renewed hostilities with the Klingons in a bid to aid their shipmate.

Written by Henry Alonso Myers & Akiva Goldsman

Directed by Chris Fisher


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[–] arod48@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So we're not going to talk about the drugs that supposedly give you the strength to beat teams of Klingons and have no side effects?

[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Forget the Space PCP. Where did they get the training?

I suppose on that moon where it rained blood?

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was heavy implication that M'Benga at least was deep in the shit during the war, and Chapel was also seemingly a veteran. Maybe hand to hand training was standard for facing off against Klingons.

[–] apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I seem to recall from S1 that Chapel was more sneaky and preferred using hyposprays to incapacitate someone rather than brute force. I don't think we got any indication before this that she's had any combat experience at all.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

They may be doing some slight retcon to justify future developments they seem to be setting up with the Gorn. Giving a couple of the characters some previous combat experience isn't a bad idea if they're planning on doing a bit of war this season.

[–] Razzleberry@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have we seen them use Compound V before? I don't recall it in the first season.

@Razzleberry @arod48 i get the feeling it’s going to tie into a klingon war trauma storyline

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah that's clearly venom from the DC universe.

[–] LibraryLass@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

It even looked like the adrenaline Bruce uses in the climax of The Batman when he's fighting that sniper.

[–] TalonLardner@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if it is less that it gives you the strength, but more that it helps with pain blocking and reaction, but with the downside that you got to take it RIGHT before the fight, and that the aches and pains will still be there when it wears off. I don't recall them mentioning that it had no side effects, so I would imagine that the side effects weren't quite plot-relevant enough to devote time to, and were handled "off camera", so to speak.

[–] arod48@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They put it in there like it was no big deal though. It kind of sends the wrong message and makes you ask the question, "Why don't they just use it all the time?"

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't imagine that's good for your physiology. Probably one of those things that will quickly kill you if you use it more than a few times.

[–] Bonehead@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Little known fact...The Boys share the same universe as Star Trek.

https://the-boys.fandom.com/wiki/V24

[–] YellinTrek@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to mention it seems generally pretty dark to suggest that Federation officers were regularly taking performance enhancers during the war...

[–] Jceggbert5@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago

A smart doctor with a nerd at his side. I feel that their super serum is not standard issue.