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The Pennsylvania Democrat recalled his time serving as a Hillary Clinton surrogate in 2016, even after he supported Bernie Sanders in the primary.

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[–] Brocken40@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the tricky part of a cult, you get convinced to do things you wouldn't normally do. The trump supporters I know raised their kids to be better, but were just vulnerable enough to be convinced that Trump would bully the bullies and protect the weak, which was a complete lie.

I empathize and hope for them to have the strength to let go of their brain washing and work to fix what has been broken.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s fine if they admit they were wrong and voted against him in 2020, great. If not, it’s not my responsibility to reprogram them. They are adults and are responsible for their own actions. If they want to change I welcome it. If you acknowledge the blame and correct it, we’re good.

[–] Brocken40@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get not wanting to put yourself out there to try and help, and it's really hard not to just be a dick to people you disagree with.

but if the question is how do we stop fascism the answer isn't blame them or make them feel guilty about it, it's reaching out and helping them out of it. they are people and people are stupid stubborn afraid and in need of support from other people.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry no. Reaching and out talking to the Nazi’s didn’t work.

[–] Brocken40@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It usually doesn't work the first time, ya gotta keep at it. as stone temple pilots say, take time with a wounded hand.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’ll be in line at whatever the modern day gas chambers are with rhetoric like that. They literally tried overthrowing the government.

[–] Brocken40@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What would you do, to prevent them from gassing me? Put them in their own concentration camps?

I would criminally charge and jail the leaders, trump Roger stone and the heratage foundation, deprogram the followers, just like with any cult. They think they are saving america, just like anyone who says vote D no matter what.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vote. Don't let them get any more wins. Don't say things that spread apathy among voters. etc.

[–] Brocken40@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Voting is a start, but what about project 2025? What of Roger stone and the Republicans, repeated (and depending on your views of the bush v gore election and the brooks brothers riot, successful) attempts to preempt duly elected presidents from going into office?

It doesn't take a majority to put a dictator in power. That's why converting, calming and understanding republican voters is so important, if they don't show up to the capital then the gop can't use them as an excuse to seize control and bypass the vote.