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The Pennsylvania Democrat recalled his time serving as a Hillary Clinton surrogate in 2016, even after he supported Bernie Sanders in the primary.

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[–] Zoidberg@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

It's almost midnight. You just got out of your job, a restaurant in a somewhat seedy location in old downtown. You leave through the backdoor into an alley and suddenly notice you're not alone. The metal door just closed shut behind you.

You look to your right. There's a guy with a knife. He's looking at you and smiling in a weird manner. He starts walking towards you menacingly.

You look to your left. There's a well known old drunk there. He smells bad and likes to hug people who are passing by. If you go that way, you will be hugged by him.

What do you do?

If you go right, you'll get stabbed and killed. If you do nothing and stay put, you'll get stabbed and killed. If you go left, you will be hugged by the stinky guy. It's disgusting and not ideal, but you'll not be stabbed and survive.

What do you choose?

I see people all the time with the dumbest arguments to not vote. "He's not progressive enough", or "he's part of the system", or even "he didn't do enough for X" (insert your favorite minority here).

It's all true. But the universe is not a perfect or ideal place. Not voting for the imperfect guy gets us a true horrible alternative. It's a choice between bad and awful.

Please vote bad and keep the awful away.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Gotta move the Overton Window from the far right back towards the center right before you can start moving it to the left.

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Tell that to the Democrat PACs funding the most insane fascist Republican primary candidates, so they can point out how insane their opposition is, effectively shifting the Overton Window even further to the right.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

There's a well known old drunk there. He smells bad and likes to hug people who are passing by. If you go that way, you will be hugged by him.

Lol did you do this on purpose?

[–] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, the false dichotomy, neat.

Abstaining is always an option. You can always just ignore either shady individual - you aren't required to pick one.

[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Libs could learn a thing or two about abstinence.

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I choose neither. Instead, I jump, grab the bars of the fire escape overhead and climb up. Stinky hugs stabby, gets stabbed and dies. Then I jump down from the fire escape onto Stabby, knock him down and stab him with his own knife.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The rusted fire escape cuts your fingers as you latch onto the bottom rungs, sending you plummeting to Stabby Smile.

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Well, I just rolled a D20 and got a 3, so fair enough...

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Teenager moment

[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

and then everyone clapped

[–] r9seng@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Your analogy does not work, as the situation presented requires you to either go to the left or to the right.

In real life, there are many options and gray areas. One of those options is to refuse support to anyone who works against the populace, regardless of their political affiliation.

The world would be much better off watching the US turn far-right and implode than it would be maintaining the status quo.

I would rather watch the US die as a Nazi state than support the lesser of two evils. Remove them as a global superpower. Move out of the way and allow other states to bring better systems of government forward. Maybe something salvageable can be found in the wreckage.

That's the part Fetterman fails to realize as well: Right now is not okay. Continuing the status quo is not okay.

Your analogy also equates the death of the nation with the death of the self, which is not even remotely true either.

Everyone knows not to negotiate with terrorists, until election season.