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Beehaw* defederated us? (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] oh_so_hazey@sh.itjust.works 91 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I can completely understand why they did but it really sucks that it had to happen. Hopefully, as the Fediverse grows, better tools are made available so instances don't need to defederate from each other.

With that said, I think it's a pretty amazing concept that they can. Terrible, sure, but nonetheless amazing.

I also wasn't aware that other instances vetted their users? This was the first one I picked. Is there a plan to address the issues beehaw brought up?

[–] iorale@lemmy.fmhy.ml 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

With that said, I think it’s a pretty amazing concept that they can. Terrible, sure, but nonetheless amazing.

I've been calling it a double-edged sword from the moment I knew that could happen in Mastodon and after I joined Lemmy, we see as normal to block lemmygrad from the beginning and that's understandable, but if an owner goes block-happy they could leave a lot of people stranded and inside their echo-chamber.
They'd be losing everything then and would be forced to migrate to other instance or create their own which may be too much as time goes by and people post more and more.

I said this from the beginning but until we get migration tools to carry our content with us to other instance, think of your account as disposable.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah I think a migration tool would be very helpful. I basically just signed up for the first instance that looked good without doing much research.

[–] iorale@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Having to do so much research just to join an instance is one of the biggest problems of the fediverse.

[–] Lith@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago

I saw some advice saying "don't overthink it, just choose one" and I'm glad I didn't take it because it seems like it couldn't be any further from the truth. Until migrating your account is an option, this just seems like a bunch of Reddits talking to each other, you can still lose everything if your local admin goes on a power trip.

[–] James_Harmony@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Would be nice if there was a Link funciton. Not just on lemmy but on the fediverse as a whole. That way, you can create an account anywhere and "link" it to other instances so that everything is mirrored. That would mean that each time you post something it would have to travel toward all the instances

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If we look at a similar but much more mature tech, email accounts either require something traceable to meatspace or another email account to set up.

Maybe it won't go that far, I don't know. We'll have to see how much fuckery the Fediverse attracts.

[–] cloaker@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

lots take issue w/ that due to the whole decentralized, free vibes thing, but I think people will largely not want illegal content so communities will probably take federation as a very serious thing as we grow.