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[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What cracks me up the most is that Jack already had a Twitter clone in the works, ready to be released once Musk burns down the old plattform and people wish for Twitter but without Musk back.

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bluesky isn't exactly a twitter clone, it's what Jack wanted Twitter to pivot to, but the board of directors refused to play ball.

So Jack spun up a separate entity and explicitly made it its own thing outside of twitter.

[–] Maajmaaj@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bluesky is pretty dope, but the moment I see ads, I'm nuking my account.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Genuine question: given that running a platform like that costs money, and that money must come from somewhere, what would you actually do if you were in charge of running it? You either take money from advertisers, or you charge users directly, and I'd hazard to guess that if you'd nuke your account upon seeing ads, you probably wouldn't pay actual money to use it.

So what do you do?

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not the person you were speaking to, but get nationalised or run on donations as a non-profit.

But I do pay more than my share for most fediverse instances that I use (which reminds me, I use this one enough - should probably make my donation regular)

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, I would love to see a Wikipedia-style social media platform take off, but I really don't know if the finances could work out. Wikipedia already struggles, and it's obscenely useful. I don't think nationalization is really feasible for social media - at least in an American context - because it would be subject to the government's legal limitations on regulating free speech, which are extremely minimal. A federally run platform would not be able to remove literal unironic Nazism, which is probably going to be a bit of a turn-off to normal people.

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait what, I thought the US had hate speech laws.

If Nazi gum flapping isn't that, then I don't know what is

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really, no. Freedom of speech is very strongly ingrained in our Constitution. The only legal restrictions on it are essentially direct threats or incitement of violence.

"Go kill this Jew" - Absolutely illegal.

"Go kill the Jews" - Illegal

"The Jews should be killed" - Borderline based on circumstances

"The Jews deserve to die" - Borderline, but probably protected by the Constitution

"The Jews deserved the Holocaust" - Almost certainly protected by the Constitution

Thank you for the breakdown. I had some vague conception of American free speech protections being pretty intense, but this illustrates the individual distinctions well