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I literally know no one that goes entirely "ethical" meat (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by ButtBidet@hexbear.net to c/vegan@lemmy.ml

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Or all hunted meat. Or all free range meat. Or whatever fumes they're huffing.

They definitely stop for food when traveling and eat normally murdered meat. They definitely go to restaurants with friends and eat industrially slaughtered meat with friends. They'll certainly pick up a thousand typically meat items in their grocery cart, like pork rinds, hotdogs, dog food, or whatever.

Maybe they splurge once a week for Trader Joe's level shit. If they're rich, they'll fill their fridge with that shit and do it more often. They'll post that shit on Instagram like it's normal.

It's not fucking their normal, it's their aspiration. They all eat industrially murdered animals. Fucking all of them, no exceptions. There's no humane meat.

*If any carnists go "well what about X dude that lives in Y country far the fuck from me" well fuck you that isn't you, you live in Ohio and drive a Mitsubishi.

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[–] AkariMizunashi@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean even "ethical" is like what the fuck are we talking about. Sure there would be less aggregate suffering if we all only ate hunted meat, compared to industrial farming (as well as much less meat and death just by necessity). But do we need to eat it? For those of us living in advanced capitalist civilization (i.e. in rich countries, exchanging money for goods and services), we're either dirt poor and eating only whatever we can get our hands on (in which case we're not dealing with ethical decisions, it's just about survival), or we're choosing to eat meat rather than plants. Making a conscious choice to take a sentient life because it gives us pleasure or convenience is unjustifiable regardless of how we might try to mystify that relationship.