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[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I support whatever this is so idk what that makes me

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Celebrating an increase in life expectancy from 30 to 40 years old is not remotely the win you think it is.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm celebrating the increase in life expectancy from 35 to higher than that of the US, actually, which is the win I think it is.

The point is not the immediate increase in that specific 5 year period, the point is the clear trend of rapid, long term increases after a long period of stagnation, with the pivitol turning point being exactly when the CPC came to power. You're supposed to look at the whole graph.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China never manipulates data coming out of their authoritarian country so good thing we can trust it. I'm sure their life expectancy is great with all their industrial pollution that regularly causes smog in their inner cities.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Here is my source do you have a source that disputes that? Or is your belief based entirely on unfalsifiable faith?

Also curious if you think Chinese life expectancy is still like 35 or what lmao

You may also be interested in what the World Bank, that infamous communist propaganda rag, has to say:

Over the past 40 years, the number of people in China with incomes below $1.90 per day – the International Poverty Line as defined by the World Bank to track global extreme poverty– has fallen by close to 800 million. With this, China has contributed close to three-quarters of the global reduction in the number of people living in extreme poverty.

No one in China is over 50. If you're over 50 in China they just shoot you, and then they lie and say they didn't.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would expect you to understand unless you've read theory.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What theory would that be, lol?

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand. In Fountainhead, she goes in depth about how Chinese life expectancy statistics are generally made up.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand

michael-laugh

That's incredible, I honestly did not see that one coming.

So tell me, what's your best guess at what Chinese life expectancy was before the CPC came to power, and what do you think it is now? Do you dispute the numbers from before the communists were even in power? Or do you think they're still living in mud huts?

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Fountainhead is a novel about an American architect that has nothing to do with China. They're doing a weird bit, presumably about how evil tankies asking them to read books is cheating.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I got that, at least after they posted a rickroll. Guess being an idiot is a defense mechanism when they realized they had nothing.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Communism increasing life expectancy!?

Shanghai Stock Exchange: http://english.sse.com.cn/

Beijing Stock Exchange: www.bse.cn

Shenzhen Stock Exchange: https://www.szse.cn/English/index.html

That's more stock exchanges than the US, comrade!

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Oh, so you consider Deng's reforms to be right-deviationist? Are you a Maoist, then?

Whether you consider the CPC to be communist or not, the fact still remains that they've made a lot of improvements in the lives of the average Chinese person.

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[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You can laugh, but communist oppression is no laughing matter. Please see this article where Ben Shapiro writes a thesis-level takedown of the mythos of Chinese life expectancy.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please, I've read that article countless times. Here is a response that breaks down all the flaws in his argument.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No don't bother linking your dumb policies that you guys never abide by.

I'm merely acting reflexively to the behaviors I constantly observe from Hexbear users.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We always abide by the PPB, tyvm! soviet-huff

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No, but whenever you guys get "dunked on", you compulsively link to it like a goddamned Manchurian candidate.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm just gonna say, if you're still posting rickrolls in 2023, you don't have a lot of room to talk about unoriginal bits.

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[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I haven't seen that movie, does a pig shit on its own balls?

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[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have a bright future as a circus clown

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[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My god he can't read a graph. How has our educational system been allowed to fail for this long?

I'm not committed at all to China as the salvation of the communist project, but it's exactly this sort of self-imposed illiteracy and ignorance, and nearly religious faith in the inferiority and duplicity of The Orient that makes me default to distrusting anything negative a cracker says about it.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

let's skip to the end of the discussion: I say "that's not anything like what I said." you say "yes but you believe those statistics are true???" I say "do you have any good evidence that they're fabricated, and that the life expectancy in China is actually still hovering around 40?" you beg the question, possibly implying that Chinese people are inherently untrustworthy, and accuse me of supporting genocide. There is nothing I can say to you that will instill an ounce of critical thinking ability in you.

wall-talk

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I mean all Hexbear links are essentially the Pravda. It doesn't help when you guys treat Wikipedia like it's somehow the same as conservapedia.com

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